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Fails
WP:EVENT. Not all leadership elections are notable, and this was a total non-event; not really an election at all.
StAnselm (
talk) 08:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep - Article could certainly use expansion to reflect the notability of the election. Upon looking at
WP:EVENT criteria I'm not sure it does fail and think that nominating to delete this seems too hasty.
Kiwichris (
talk) 09:11, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge to a new article about National Party leadership elections in general. It's not an inherently invalid topic — people are interested in the leadership histories of political parties, and they do get media coverage — but it's not necessarily the case that every leadership election always needs its own standalone article even if there's very little that can actually be said about it because it was a one-candidate race that ended in an acclamation. A better approach is what we do with
New Democratic Party leadership elections in Canada: we start with an overview article about the overall phenomenon of the party's leadership elections in general. It directly contains all of the content about the races where we can't really write or source anything significant, because they were one-candidate or "incumbent leader challenged only by a minor fringe candidate who had no chance of actually winning" formalities, and then the races about which we can write and source more content have their own separate articles which are briefly summarized under a "main article" link to the standalone subpage. This isn't an inherently invalid topic, but it doesn't really need its own standalone article — including a brief summary of it in an overview article is a better approach in this case.
Bearcat (
talk) 18:49, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge per Bearcat. Some of these elections, where they are contested, might be interesting enough to justify standalone articles, but for pro-forma processes like this where there is only one candidate, dressing them up as an "election" is borderline misleading for our readers.
Lankiveil(
speak to me) 09:38, 24 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge per Bearcat. We have far too many of these leadership election articles (the sheer number at
Category:Leadership elections in the Czech Republic is painful to see) and I agree that merging them into a single article on leadership elections within the party would be a good solution to having numerous articles that are never going to progress beyond a stub.
Number57 22:00, 24 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment:@
Bearcat,
Lankiveil, and
Number 57: The proposed merge target does not yet exist. Please create it or suggest practicable outcomes instead.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:28, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Response to relist comment I stand by my suggestion. Obviously I am not going to create a new article with content that duplicates that here, unless it is clear that consensus as expressed by these discussions is that it is a good idea to do so.
Lankiveil(
speak to me) 00:15, 29 March 2018 (UTC).reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Fails
WP:EVENT. Not all leadership elections are notable, and this was a total non-event; not really an election at all.
StAnselm (
talk) 08:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep - Article could certainly use expansion to reflect the notability of the election. Upon looking at
WP:EVENT criteria I'm not sure it does fail and think that nominating to delete this seems too hasty.
Kiwichris (
talk) 09:11, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge to a new article about National Party leadership elections in general. It's not an inherently invalid topic — people are interested in the leadership histories of political parties, and they do get media coverage — but it's not necessarily the case that every leadership election always needs its own standalone article even if there's very little that can actually be said about it because it was a one-candidate race that ended in an acclamation. A better approach is what we do with
New Democratic Party leadership elections in Canada: we start with an overview article about the overall phenomenon of the party's leadership elections in general. It directly contains all of the content about the races where we can't really write or source anything significant, because they were one-candidate or "incumbent leader challenged only by a minor fringe candidate who had no chance of actually winning" formalities, and then the races about which we can write and source more content have their own separate articles which are briefly summarized under a "main article" link to the standalone subpage. This isn't an inherently invalid topic, but it doesn't really need its own standalone article — including a brief summary of it in an overview article is a better approach in this case.
Bearcat (
talk) 18:49, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge per Bearcat. Some of these elections, where they are contested, might be interesting enough to justify standalone articles, but for pro-forma processes like this where there is only one candidate, dressing them up as an "election" is borderline misleading for our readers.
Lankiveil(
speak to me) 09:38, 24 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge per Bearcat. We have far too many of these leadership election articles (the sheer number at
Category:Leadership elections in the Czech Republic is painful to see) and I agree that merging them into a single article on leadership elections within the party would be a good solution to having numerous articles that are never going to progress beyond a stub.
Number57 22:00, 24 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment:@
Bearcat,
Lankiveil, and
Number 57: The proposed merge target does not yet exist. Please create it or suggest practicable outcomes instead.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:28, 27 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Response to relist comment I stand by my suggestion. Obviously I am not going to create a new article with content that duplicates that here, unless it is clear that consensus as expressed by these discussions is that it is a good idea to do so.
Lankiveil(
speak to me) 00:15, 29 March 2018 (UTC).reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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