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The result was merge to National Party of Australia leadership elections. I guess I could also say "repurpose" since we currently don't have a page for it. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 09:08, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
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Fails WP:EVENT. Not all leadership elections are notable, and this was a total non-event; not really an election at all. St Anselm ( talk) 08:58, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Quite untrue to say "this was a total non-event", the change of a political party leader is very important in the political landscape of a country. As such I believe an article detailing it is appropriate. This nomination just seems to be a solution looking for a problem. Kiwichris ( talk) 09:19, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. Probably not enough material for a standalone article. The potential candidates for leader and deputy leader should have their involvement mentioned in their articles, if not already done so. Ivar the Boneful ( talk) 09:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 10:42, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
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- Merge to a new article about National Party leadership elections in general. It's not an inherently invalid topic — people are interested in the leadership histories of political parties, and they do get media coverage — but it's not necessarily the case that every leadership election always needs its own standalone article even if there's very little that can actually be said about it because it was a one-candidate race that ended in an acclamation. A better approach is what we do with New Democratic Party leadership elections in Canada: we start with an overview article about the overall phenomenon of the party's leadership elections in general. It directly contains all of the content about the races where we can't really write or source anything significant, because they were one-candidate or "incumbent leader challenged only by a minor fringe candidate who had no chance of actually winning" formalities, and then the races about which we can write and source more content have their own separate articles which are briefly summarized under a "main article" link to the standalone subpage. This isn't an inherently invalid topic, but it doesn't really need its own standalone article — including a brief summary of it in an overview article is a better approach in this case. Bearcat ( talk) 18:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Merge per Bearcat. We have far too many of these leadership election articles (the sheer number at Category:Leadership elections in the Czech Republic is painful to see) and I agree that merging them into a single article on leadership elections within the party would be a good solution to having numerous articles that are never going to progress beyond a stub. Number 5 7 12:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, as nominator, I agree. See also
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Party of Australia leadership election, 2016.
St
Anselm (
talk) 19:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- Comment the Czech case is not a good example because it has categories for 13 different parties, and some of them would be pretty minor. Some leadership contests deserve articles: e.g. those for Australia's main two parties, because they are always choosing a Prime Minister or alternative PM. That said, the Nationals leadership is never such a big deal (they are probably Australia's 3rd most significant party, but well behind the main 2), so I don't care either way on the merge. Adpete ( talk) 08:23, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, as nominator, I agree. See also
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Party of Australia leadership election, 2016.
St
Anselm (
talk) 19:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- Merge per Bearcat. Some of these elections, where they are contested, might be interesting enough to justify standalone articles, but for pro-forma processes like this where there is only one candidate, dressing them up as an "election" is borderline misleading for our readers. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 09:38, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- Merge to a new article like above, this wasn't a true election and therefore doesn't particularly meet WP:EVENT. talk to !dave 15:27, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
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The result was merge to National Party of Australia leadership elections. I guess I could also say "repurpose" since we currently don't have a page for it. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 09:08, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
- National Party of Australia leadership election, 2007 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Fails WP:EVENT. Not all leadership elections are notable, and this was a total non-event; not really an election at all. St Anselm ( talk) 08:58, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Quite untrue to say "this was a total non-event", the change of a political party leader is very important in the political landscape of a country. As such I believe an article detailing it is appropriate. This nomination just seems to be a solution looking for a problem. Kiwichris ( talk) 09:19, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. Probably not enough material for a standalone article. The potential candidates for leader and deputy leader should have their involvement mentioned in their articles, if not already done so. Ivar the Boneful ( talk) 09:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 10:42, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 10:42, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 10:42, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Merge to a new article about National Party leadership elections in general. It's not an inherently invalid topic — people are interested in the leadership histories of political parties, and they do get media coverage — but it's not necessarily the case that every leadership election always needs its own standalone article even if there's very little that can actually be said about it because it was a one-candidate race that ended in an acclamation. A better approach is what we do with New Democratic Party leadership elections in Canada: we start with an overview article about the overall phenomenon of the party's leadership elections in general. It directly contains all of the content about the races where we can't really write or source anything significant, because they were one-candidate or "incumbent leader challenged only by a minor fringe candidate who had no chance of actually winning" formalities, and then the races about which we can write and source more content have their own separate articles which are briefly summarized under a "main article" link to the standalone subpage. This isn't an inherently invalid topic, but it doesn't really need its own standalone article — including a brief summary of it in an overview article is a better approach in this case. Bearcat ( talk) 18:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- Merge per Bearcat. We have far too many of these leadership election articles (the sheer number at Category:Leadership elections in the Czech Republic is painful to see) and I agree that merging them into a single article on leadership elections within the party would be a good solution to having numerous articles that are never going to progress beyond a stub. Number 5 7 12:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, as nominator, I agree. See also
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Party of Australia leadership election, 2016.
St
Anselm (
talk) 19:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- Comment the Czech case is not a good example because it has categories for 13 different parties, and some of them would be pretty minor. Some leadership contests deserve articles: e.g. those for Australia's main two parties, because they are always choosing a Prime Minister or alternative PM. That said, the Nationals leadership is never such a big deal (they are probably Australia's 3rd most significant party, but well behind the main 2), so I don't care either way on the merge. Adpete ( talk) 08:23, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, as nominator, I agree. See also
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Party of Australia leadership election, 2016.
St
Anselm (
talk) 19:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- Merge per Bearcat. Some of these elections, where they are contested, might be interesting enough to justify standalone articles, but for pro-forma processes like this where there is only one candidate, dressing them up as an "election" is borderline misleading for our readers. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 09:38, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- Merge to a new article like above, this wasn't a true election and therefore doesn't particularly meet WP:EVENT. talk to !dave 15:27, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
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