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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 13:13, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
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only citations, no quality source; doesn't pass GNG NAH 14:06, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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- Weak delete I found only
one source in a book, which I find too few for passing
WP:GNG. Regards,
Comte0 (
talk)
17:38, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I forgot it, apologies. But it's only a (very short) mention. NAH 17:46, 28 October 2018 (UTC).
- Another fairly prominent book mention: [1] Adelsheim ( talk) 09:18, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: Full disclosure: I am the author of the article. I reckon that a political organization with prominent European officials as members (such as 2 former MEPs, a current MEP, a former French MP, and the former president of an EU28 country), however minor it may appear to be, meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. As for
WP:SIGCOV:
[2] (
Gatestone Institute),
[3] (
Huffington Post),
[4] (
Magyar Idők),
[5] (
StreetPress), etc. And that's without even mentioning far-right sources such as
Boulevard Voltaire, Polémia, and Breizh Info. Regards,
Adelsheim (
talk)
19:05, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
-
I will also note that this is Nomen ad hoc's third attempt to delete a CNRE-related article. The first two were unsuccessful (
Wikidata,
Wikipedia). Not that I am assuming anything—I am confident NAH is acting in good faith.
Adelsheim (
talk)
19:09, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Adelsheim: of course, I am. I'm only concerned about notability criterias. NAH 12:44, 29 October 2018 (UTC).
-
- There appear to be plenty of independent sources to establish notability. Rathfelder ( talk) 19:44, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 13:01, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 13:01, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - I favor the automatic inclusion of articles on all political parties, their national leaders, and their youth sections. This is the sort of articles that the public has a right to expect in a comprehensive encyclopedia, and nitpicking sources in such a case is a classic example of what our policy of Ignore All Rules is meant to circumvent. Noteworthy neo-fascist political association. Carrite ( talk) 13:07, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Anyone else want to weigh in?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Adelsheim ( talk) 17:32, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Anyone else want to weigh in?
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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 13:13, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
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only citations, no quality source; doesn't pass GNG NAH 14:06, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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- Weak delete I found only
one source in a book, which I find too few for passing
WP:GNG. Regards,
Comte0 (
talk)
17:38, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I forgot it, apologies. But it's only a (very short) mention. NAH 17:46, 28 October 2018 (UTC).
- Another fairly prominent book mention: [1] Adelsheim ( talk) 09:18, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: Full disclosure: I am the author of the article. I reckon that a political organization with prominent European officials as members (such as 2 former MEPs, a current MEP, a former French MP, and the former president of an EU28 country), however minor it may appear to be, meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. As for
WP:SIGCOV:
[2] (
Gatestone Institute),
[3] (
Huffington Post),
[4] (
Magyar Idők),
[5] (
StreetPress), etc. And that's without even mentioning far-right sources such as
Boulevard Voltaire, Polémia, and Breizh Info. Regards,
Adelsheim (
talk)
19:05, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
-
I will also note that this is Nomen ad hoc's third attempt to delete a CNRE-related article. The first two were unsuccessful (
Wikidata,
Wikipedia). Not that I am assuming anything—I am confident NAH is acting in good faith.
Adelsheim (
talk)
19:09, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Adelsheim: of course, I am. I'm only concerned about notability criterias. NAH 12:44, 29 October 2018 (UTC).
-
- There appear to be plenty of independent sources to establish notability. Rathfelder ( talk) 19:44, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 13:01, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 13:01, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - I favor the automatic inclusion of articles on all political parties, their national leaders, and their youth sections. This is the sort of articles that the public has a right to expect in a comprehensive encyclopedia, and nitpicking sources in such a case is a classic example of what our policy of Ignore All Rules is meant to circumvent. Noteworthy neo-fascist political association. Carrite ( talk) 13:07, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Anyone else want to weigh in?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Adelsheim ( talk) 17:32, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Anyone else want to weigh in?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Adelsheim ( talk) 17:32, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.