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The result was delete. North America 1000 00:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
National Catholic Church of America
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Clearly fails
WP:NCHURCH. No mention to be found anywhere of this denomination outside of its website; no mention in the 2009 Melton's encyclopedia of American religions, or in
Google books or
Google scholar.
I recommend deletion for clear lack of notability.
Veverve (
talk)
17:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:38, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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- There's a little bit about the denomination
here, where we're told that it "has no pope, ordains women, marries couples regardless of gender and makes celibacy optional". That mention isn't enough to establish notability on its own, of course, but perhaps it suggests that more sources are out there?
Extraordinary Writ (
talk)
04:40, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- That source also says that this church has "fewer than a dozen parishes", but presumably at least eight because they are in eight states (unless a parish can cross a state boundary). I'm not sure whether that is enough to suggest that more sources are available. I suppose it depends on what impact those 8–11 have had. Phil Bridger ( talk) 10:26, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep -- This appears to be a denomination, though a very small one. [
[1]] lists four clergy possibly serving five congregations. Is it so small that we should delete it? I do not think we have any consensus on minimum size.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
16:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- @ Peterkingiron: WP:NCHURCH is an official policy, and it makes no mention of how many parishes a denomination claims being a notability criteria. Veverve ( talk) 17:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 23:53, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - I did a quick search, there's practically nothing on this church. Their web page is very elusive, with just a few pics of some guys in robes. I suppose its possible this denomination *may* be notable, but there's nothing here to indicate it is. All the references aren't independent, so don't meet WP:RS. Deathlibrarian ( talk) 01:46, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - Insufficient coverage to demonstrate notability for this church due to the lack of reliable independent sources Such-change47 ( talk) 02:05, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. North America 1000 00:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
National Catholic Church of America
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Clearly fails
WP:NCHURCH. No mention to be found anywhere of this denomination outside of its website; no mention in the 2009 Melton's encyclopedia of American religions, or in
Google books or
Google scholar.
I recommend deletion for clear lack of notability.
Veverve (
talk)
17:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:38, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:20, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- There's a little bit about the denomination
here, where we're told that it "has no pope, ordains women, marries couples regardless of gender and makes celibacy optional". That mention isn't enough to establish notability on its own, of course, but perhaps it suggests that more sources are out there?
Extraordinary Writ (
talk)
04:40, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- That source also says that this church has "fewer than a dozen parishes", but presumably at least eight because they are in eight states (unless a parish can cross a state boundary). I'm not sure whether that is enough to suggest that more sources are available. I suppose it depends on what impact those 8–11 have had. Phil Bridger ( talk) 10:26, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep -- This appears to be a denomination, though a very small one. [
[1]] lists four clergy possibly serving five congregations. Is it so small that we should delete it? I do not think we have any consensus on minimum size.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
16:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- @ Peterkingiron: WP:NCHURCH is an official policy, and it makes no mention of how many parishes a denomination claims being a notability criteria. Veverve ( talk) 17:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 23:53, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - I did a quick search, there's practically nothing on this church. Their web page is very elusive, with just a few pics of some guys in robes. I suppose its possible this denomination *may* be notable, but there's nothing here to indicate it is. All the references aren't independent, so don't meet WP:RS. Deathlibrarian ( talk) 01:46, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - Insufficient coverage to demonstrate notability for this church due to the lack of reliable independent sources Such-change47 ( talk) 02:05, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.