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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 12:41, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
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Long-running dispute concerning the notability of a place with this name and its relation to a place described at Ukrah. See several years-worth of discussion here and at Ukrah for some background. Hopefully a formal discussion will settle this dispute, at least on paper. Good luck. Lithopsian ( talk) 11:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:07, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:NOT. For Wikipedia's purposes, Nagarukhra is a neologism pushed by multiple editors in wiki and maybe some people in the real world. The Nagarukrah campaign has been running in Wikipedia for six years, and the only supporting references have been user-generated content. Other efforts include a walled garden of stubs (e.g. [1] and [2]) that make census-recognized villages parts of Nagarukrah. One stated rationale for deleting Ukrah in favor of Nagarukrah is to push new information into Google and Google maps. [3] This is all contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:23, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Per Google maps (link), Ukrha and Nagarukhra are over 100 miles / 160km apart. Not sure why Nagarukhra was repeatedly redirected to Ukrha nor why the numerous attempts were made to hijack Ukrah.
- Neither আকাশ নাথ সরকার ( talk · contribs) nor Iamakashnathsarkar ( talk · contribs) appear to be communicating with each other, other editors, me, nor leaving wp:ES. My last comment on আকাশ নাথ সরকার's talk page was replied to.
- There is no listing of Nagarukhra on the list of towns in 2011 census of West Bengal:
https://censusindia.gov.in/towns/town.htm:
https://censusindia.gov.in/towns/wb_towns.pdf
Adakiko (
talk)
19:05, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Google Maps takes some of its information from user-generated sources, including OpenStreetMap. Multiple hoax settlements have been introduced into Wikipedia this way (e.g. Midzemuthleiy, Delaware). In this case, the Ukrah found at the link is Ukra in Paschim district (no relation). Nagarukra has replaced Ukrah in Nadia district on Google Maps. There may be a real-world campaign on the ground, but there is nothing beyond user-generated content to confirm that, never mind anything official. Editors assert that Nagarukra town that has absorbed Ukrah and adjacent villages in Nadia district. There is no reliable evidence. • Gene93k ( talk) 22:18, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Quite confusing. It appears the majority maps linked to by geohack show the Ukhra area as Nagarukra Adakiko ( talk) 01:40, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and SALT Per Gene93k above. Article has been deleted three times. log Given they appear unrelated, I see no reason for a redirect to Ukhra. I have not found any significant sources showing notability. Presumably governed by WP:GEOLAND. The only source on Nagarukra would appear to have been generated by the the article's primary editor: open street map history Adakiko ( talk) 19:52, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Additional comment: The article's creator has updated it with content and citations. However, the verifiable content is copied from Ukrah, including the citations. The citations supporting Nagarukra appear to be self-published or the usual blacklist-worthy mirrors with user-generated content. • Gene93k ( talk) 20:07, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete There is no mention about the place in census record, but whatever it was doesn't seem to meet WP:GEOLAND or WP:GNG. Jeet Dev talk 11:19, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I speedied this page ages ago because I stumbled on it & thought it was a dupe article then found the issues described in multiple posts above. Should likely be salted as well. JamesG5 ( talk) 06:37, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and SALT per Gene93k. 4meter4 ( talk) 02:45, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and SALT per Gene93k. আকাশ নাথ সরকার ( talk) 05:17, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 12:41, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
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Long-running dispute concerning the notability of a place with this name and its relation to a place described at Ukrah. See several years-worth of discussion here and at Ukrah for some background. Hopefully a formal discussion will settle this dispute, at least on paper. Good luck. Lithopsian ( talk) 11:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:07, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:07, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOT. For Wikipedia's purposes, Nagarukhra is a neologism pushed by multiple editors in wiki and maybe some people in the real world. The Nagarukrah campaign has been running in Wikipedia for six years, and the only supporting references have been user-generated content. Other efforts include a walled garden of stubs (e.g. [1] and [2]) that make census-recognized villages parts of Nagarukrah. One stated rationale for deleting Ukrah in favor of Nagarukrah is to push new information into Google and Google maps. [3] This is all contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:23, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Per Google maps (link), Ukrha and Nagarukhra are over 100 miles / 160km apart. Not sure why Nagarukhra was repeatedly redirected to Ukrha nor why the numerous attempts were made to hijack Ukrah.
- Neither আকাশ নাথ সরকার ( talk · contribs) nor Iamakashnathsarkar ( talk · contribs) appear to be communicating with each other, other editors, me, nor leaving wp:ES. My last comment on আকাশ নাথ সরকার's talk page was replied to.
- There is no listing of Nagarukhra on the list of towns in 2011 census of West Bengal:
https://censusindia.gov.in/towns/town.htm:
https://censusindia.gov.in/towns/wb_towns.pdf
Adakiko (
talk)
19:05, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Google Maps takes some of its information from user-generated sources, including OpenStreetMap. Multiple hoax settlements have been introduced into Wikipedia this way (e.g. Midzemuthleiy, Delaware). In this case, the Ukrah found at the link is Ukra in Paschim district (no relation). Nagarukra has replaced Ukrah in Nadia district on Google Maps. There may be a real-world campaign on the ground, but there is nothing beyond user-generated content to confirm that, never mind anything official. Editors assert that Nagarukra town that has absorbed Ukrah and adjacent villages in Nadia district. There is no reliable evidence. • Gene93k ( talk) 22:18, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Quite confusing. It appears the majority maps linked to by geohack show the Ukhra area as Nagarukra Adakiko ( talk) 01:40, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and SALT Per Gene93k above. Article has been deleted three times. log Given they appear unrelated, I see no reason for a redirect to Ukhra. I have not found any significant sources showing notability. Presumably governed by WP:GEOLAND. The only source on Nagarukra would appear to have been generated by the the article's primary editor: open street map history Adakiko ( talk) 19:52, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Additional comment: The article's creator has updated it with content and citations. However, the verifiable content is copied from Ukrah, including the citations. The citations supporting Nagarukra appear to be self-published or the usual blacklist-worthy mirrors with user-generated content. • Gene93k ( talk) 20:07, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete There is no mention about the place in census record, but whatever it was doesn't seem to meet WP:GEOLAND or WP:GNG. Jeet Dev talk 11:19, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I speedied this page ages ago because I stumbled on it & thought it was a dupe article then found the issues described in multiple posts above. Should likely be salted as well. JamesG5 ( talk) 06:37, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and SALT per Gene93k. 4meter4 ( talk) 02:45, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and SALT per Gene93k. আকাশ নাথ সরকার ( talk) 05:17, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.