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The result was no consensus. Stifle ( talk) 14:56, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Nada Mourtada-Sabbah
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I came here trying to investigate the "close paraphrasing" tag. Instead, here we are. First I can find no evidence that this passes WP:GNG; I couldn't find independent coverage of the subject. As for WP:NPROF according to SCOPUS her work hasn't garnered many citations. No indication that her position was a "Named chair or distinguished professor appointment" per the 5th criterion. She has co-authored several books but nothing in WP:AUTHOR seems to apply here. Mysteriously, there's no mention of her at the AUS website any longer, and I can find no news of what she's doing now. To complete the picture, the article was created by a single-purpose account that shared a name with the subject. Certainly no rules broken, but it does fit with everything else to suggest this may be an article created for promotional purposes, and that doesn't meet our notability criteria. Perhaps someone else can turn up some sources? I've come up empty. Ajpolino ( talk) 05:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete there are no indications of meeting GNG, any notability criteria for academics, or the notability guidelines for writers. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment- at least one of her books has been reviewed by an independent journal (that citation is on the page), and I am looking for some more. I also removed most of the text that was copied from another source. Her current position seems to be as secretary general of the University Leadership Council [1], a group focused on learning in the UAE led by Nahyan bin Mubarak Al Nahyan. DaffodilOcean ( talk) 05:02, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep - I have removed the fluff. Her work on the political question has been cited in multiple legal articles, but doesn't end up in Google Scholar. I have added what I could find and look forward to hearing other thoughts on her. If this article does not survive AfD, can it be moved to a draft in case more sources are found? DaffodilOcean ( talk) 23:29, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:10, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - Thank you DO for your work on this article. Now that we know the subject's current position, I feel it's likely that other sources would exist in Arabic, which (shame on me) I cannot read. So I'd also lean "Weak keep" based on the gentle assumption that there's more material out there, and no benefit to deleting the article. Ajpolino ( talk) 18:16, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless ( talk) 08:12, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Stifle ( talk) 14:56, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Nada Mourtada-Sabbah
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I came here trying to investigate the "close paraphrasing" tag. Instead, here we are. First I can find no evidence that this passes WP:GNG; I couldn't find independent coverage of the subject. As for WP:NPROF according to SCOPUS her work hasn't garnered many citations. No indication that her position was a "Named chair or distinguished professor appointment" per the 5th criterion. She has co-authored several books but nothing in WP:AUTHOR seems to apply here. Mysteriously, there's no mention of her at the AUS website any longer, and I can find no news of what she's doing now. To complete the picture, the article was created by a single-purpose account that shared a name with the subject. Certainly no rules broken, but it does fit with everything else to suggest this may be an article created for promotional purposes, and that doesn't meet our notability criteria. Perhaps someone else can turn up some sources? I've come up empty. Ajpolino ( talk) 05:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Ajpolino ( talk) 05:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Arab Emirates-related deletion discussions. Ajpolino ( talk) 05:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Modussiccandi ( talk) 15:20, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete there are no indications of meeting GNG, any notability criteria for academics, or the notability guidelines for writers. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment- at least one of her books has been reviewed by an independent journal (that citation is on the page), and I am looking for some more. I also removed most of the text that was copied from another source. Her current position seems to be as secretary general of the University Leadership Council [1], a group focused on learning in the UAE led by Nahyan bin Mubarak Al Nahyan. DaffodilOcean ( talk) 05:02, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep - I have removed the fluff. Her work on the political question has been cited in multiple legal articles, but doesn't end up in Google Scholar. I have added what I could find and look forward to hearing other thoughts on her. If this article does not survive AfD, can it be moved to a draft in case more sources are found? DaffodilOcean ( talk) 23:29, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:10, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - Thank you DO for your work on this article. Now that we know the subject's current position, I feel it's likely that other sources would exist in Arabic, which (shame on me) I cannot read. So I'd also lean "Weak keep" based on the gentle assumption that there's more material out there, and no benefit to deleting the article. Ajpolino ( talk) 18:16, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless ( talk) 08:12, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
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