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The result was nomination withdrawn. I'm still not entirely convinced we can spin a full article out of this, but I'll AGF that others think we can. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:41, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
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This is the sliproad leading down to the Calais ferry terminal. The article is sourced to Google Maps and a search for sources reveals nothing else either. It may be possible to redirect; I'm just not sure where. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:17, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Redirect to A26 autoroute. RN216 and A216 autoroute are both mentioned (briefly) there as a spur to the ferry port. " Pepper" @ 04:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep I hesitated about nominating this article for deletion back in January but in light of the criteria in WP:GEOROAD I decided not to. The N prefix in France denotes a national highway which the notability guidelines class as being "typically notable". It is the only main road leading down to the Calais ferry port which is the 4th most important in France Port_of_Calais with 3.5 Million vehicles coming off the ferries and up this road. With the recent migrant problems of people trying to get to the UK the road has become a focal point and a number of migrants have been killed on this road. N216 specifically mentioned Domdeparis ( talk) 09:00, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- That's just a trivial passing mention - you'll need more sources than that, and we need those because at the moment the article is not adhering to
WP:NPOV as it does not talk about the migrant issues which I agree are the most important thing here.
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont)
09:14, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that 5 deaths on a single road is trivial but here is another mention. The road is also called in French the rocade est or rocade portuaire.
[1] i don't understand the NPOV remark. It is a fact that 5 migrants have been killed on this road trying to climb abord vehicles for the UK. There is nothing in what I have written that is not neutral I think but feel free to suggest other wording.
Domdeparis (
talk)
09:22, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, I see you updated the article since I last looked at it. I've added another source and expanded on that, but I still can't help thinking I'm writing about the
Calais Jungle in the wrong place.
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont)
09:23, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- I understand what you are saying but I have regularly taken this road when traveling from France to the UK and I can assure you the police presence and the barriers make it a very strange trip. Domdeparis ( talk) 09:27, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, I see you updated the article since I last looked at it. I've added another source and expanded on that, but I still can't help thinking I'm writing about the
Calais Jungle in the wrong place.
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont)
09:23, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that 5 deaths on a single road is trivial but here is another mention. The road is also called in French the rocade est or rocade portuaire.
[1] i don't understand the NPOV remark. It is a fact that 5 migrants have been killed on this road trying to climb abord vehicles for the UK. There is nothing in what I have written that is not neutral I think but feel free to suggest other wording.
Domdeparis (
talk)
09:22, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- That's just a trivial passing mention - you'll need more sources than that, and we need those because at the moment the article is not adhering to
WP:NPOV as it does not talk about the migrant issues which I agree are the most important thing here.
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont)
09:14, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
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The result was nomination withdrawn. I'm still not entirely convinced we can spin a full article out of this, but I'll AGF that others think we can. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:41, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
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This is the sliproad leading down to the Calais ferry terminal. The article is sourced to Google Maps and a search for sources reveals nothing else either. It may be possible to redirect; I'm just not sure where. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:17, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Redirect to A26 autoroute. RN216 and A216 autoroute are both mentioned (briefly) there as a spur to the ferry port. " Pepper" @ 04:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep I hesitated about nominating this article for deletion back in January but in light of the criteria in WP:GEOROAD I decided not to. The N prefix in France denotes a national highway which the notability guidelines class as being "typically notable". It is the only main road leading down to the Calais ferry port which is the 4th most important in France Port_of_Calais with 3.5 Million vehicles coming off the ferries and up this road. With the recent migrant problems of people trying to get to the UK the road has become a focal point and a number of migrants have been killed on this road. N216 specifically mentioned Domdeparis ( talk) 09:00, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- That's just a trivial passing mention - you'll need more sources than that, and we need those because at the moment the article is not adhering to
WP:NPOV as it does not talk about the migrant issues which I agree are the most important thing here.
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont)
09:14, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that 5 deaths on a single road is trivial but here is another mention. The road is also called in French the rocade est or rocade portuaire.
[1] i don't understand the NPOV remark. It is a fact that 5 migrants have been killed on this road trying to climb abord vehicles for the UK. There is nothing in what I have written that is not neutral I think but feel free to suggest other wording.
Domdeparis (
talk)
09:22, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, I see you updated the article since I last looked at it. I've added another source and expanded on that, but I still can't help thinking I'm writing about the
Calais Jungle in the wrong place.
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont)
09:23, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- I understand what you are saying but I have regularly taken this road when traveling from France to the UK and I can assure you the police presence and the barriers make it a very strange trip. Domdeparis ( talk) 09:27, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, I see you updated the article since I last looked at it. I've added another source and expanded on that, but I still can't help thinking I'm writing about the
Calais Jungle in the wrong place.
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont)
09:23, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that 5 deaths on a single road is trivial but here is another mention. The road is also called in French the rocade est or rocade portuaire.
[1] i don't understand the NPOV remark. It is a fact that 5 migrants have been killed on this road trying to climb abord vehicles for the UK. There is nothing in what I have written that is not neutral I think but feel free to suggest other wording.
Domdeparis (
talk)
09:22, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- That's just a trivial passing mention - you'll need more sources than that, and we need those because at the moment the article is not adhering to
WP:NPOV as it does not talk about the migrant issues which I agree are the most important thing here.
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont)
09:14, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
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