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The result was keep. – Joe ( talk) 00:34, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
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No indication how notable this series is. It might have had an English licensing, but would that be good enough to retain? AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 19:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
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- I’m not an expert in anime at all, so I’ll have to do a bit more research when I get home, but I’ll say preliminarily that as I understand it,
A1 Pictures is a fairly well-respected animation studio in Japan – to the extent that anything they make, it’ll probably be broadcast on a major network and become notable through significant coverage in reliable sources. Try searching in Japanese sources as well as English ones. (Try copy and pasting the Japanese title into Google). I’m currently on mobile, so it’s difficult for me to do it myself.
Mz7 (
talk)
19:56, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, something is off here. The article stated that this show was produced by A1 Pictures, but A1 Pictures wasn't founded until 2005, whereas this show aired in 2004. I've therefore removed the reference to A1. Mz7 ( talk) 23:29, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Do you want to work on it as a draft?
AngusWOOF (
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00:25, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- No, I'd rather see it kept in the mainspace. Here, the subject is a television series that aired on a major Japanese television network. These are typically notable enough for Wikipedia. Mz7 ( talk) 07:34, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Why do you keep posing AfDs as a question? If you're not sure if it should be deleted then don't nominate it. This was a typical television series that aired on several major Japanese television networks. — Xezbeth ( talk) 07:13, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Why should it be created when it's not been shown how notable it is? Not every television series produced needs an article. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 15:11, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- I feel that articles should have more than that to establish notability otherwise you have something like "Musumet is a Japanese anime series that aired on several major Japanese networks". Well yeah it aired, but where is the impact if that was noteworthy? The lack of
WP:RS here in Japanese sources is troubling. -
Knowledgekid87 (
talk)
15:25, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Notability is already established by virtue of it being a TV series that aired on several major networks. — Xezbeth ( talk) 17:26, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- As I mentioned in my comment below, although the anime is obscure and appears to have been forgotten, considering it aired 13 years ago (when online anime media was in its infancy), it's possible that there was more coverage about it offline, or any online coverage that did exist is already gone.
Narutolovehinata5
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c
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23:44, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Could the article possibly be redirected to TNK (company) then until more information can be found? - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 14:24, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- Delete I have found no evidence that this has been licensed in the United States, a search for in depth or numerous WP:RS came up empty. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 15:11, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- It doesn't need to have been licensed in the United States. This isn't the American Wikipedia. — Xezbeth ( talk) 17:26, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Weak keep - The article is woefully incomplete, and if the article is to be kept, it needs to be expanded to at least be an overview of the series. However, the series did air on multiple Japanese markets, which I supposed should be enough to establish notability. In addition, due to the series' age, it's possible that coverage that may exist may either be dead or offline, so we might have to be more lenient about notability standards, in this case. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 23:44, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. – Joe ( talk) 00:34, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
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No indication how notable this series is. It might have had an English licensing, but would that be good enough to retain? AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 19:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 19:46, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
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- I’m not an expert in anime at all, so I’ll have to do a bit more research when I get home, but I’ll say preliminarily that as I understand it,
A1 Pictures is a fairly well-respected animation studio in Japan – to the extent that anything they make, it’ll probably be broadcast on a major network and become notable through significant coverage in reliable sources. Try searching in Japanese sources as well as English ones. (Try copy and pasting the Japanese title into Google). I’m currently on mobile, so it’s difficult for me to do it myself.
Mz7 (
talk)
19:56, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, something is off here. The article stated that this show was produced by A1 Pictures, but A1 Pictures wasn't founded until 2005, whereas this show aired in 2004. I've therefore removed the reference to A1. Mz7 ( talk) 23:29, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Do you want to work on it as a draft?
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
00:25, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- No, I'd rather see it kept in the mainspace. Here, the subject is a television series that aired on a major Japanese television network. These are typically notable enough for Wikipedia. Mz7 ( talk) 07:34, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Why do you keep posing AfDs as a question? If you're not sure if it should be deleted then don't nominate it. This was a typical television series that aired on several major Japanese television networks. — Xezbeth ( talk) 07:13, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Why should it be created when it's not been shown how notable it is? Not every television series produced needs an article. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 15:11, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- I feel that articles should have more than that to establish notability otherwise you have something like "Musumet is a Japanese anime series that aired on several major Japanese networks". Well yeah it aired, but where is the impact if that was noteworthy? The lack of
WP:RS here in Japanese sources is troubling. -
Knowledgekid87 (
talk)
15:25, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Notability is already established by virtue of it being a TV series that aired on several major networks. — Xezbeth ( talk) 17:26, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- As I mentioned in my comment below, although the anime is obscure and appears to have been forgotten, considering it aired 13 years ago (when online anime media was in its infancy), it's possible that there was more coverage about it offline, or any online coverage that did exist is already gone.
Narutolovehinata5
t
c
csd
new
23:44, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Could the article possibly be redirected to TNK (company) then until more information can be found? - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 14:24, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- Delete I have found no evidence that this has been licensed in the United States, a search for in depth or numerous WP:RS came up empty. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 15:11, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- It doesn't need to have been licensed in the United States. This isn't the American Wikipedia. — Xezbeth ( talk) 17:26, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Weak keep - The article is woefully incomplete, and if the article is to be kept, it needs to be expanded to at least be an overview of the series. However, the series did air on multiple Japanese markets, which I supposed should be enough to establish notability. In addition, due to the series' age, it's possible that coverage that may exist may either be dead or offline, so we might have to be more lenient about notability standards, in this case. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 23:44, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
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