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The result was delete. Snow delete. No reliable source indicating this is a populated place Firsfron of Ronchester 19:23, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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Could not find any coverage of this place under any of its names. Appears to have just been a well. – dlthewave ☎ 19:56, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Arizona. – dlthewave ☎ 19:56, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - On satellite it's in the middle of nowhere, way up at the end of "Indian Route 13". There are some buildings scattered about too, but I found nothing online about this place. It's also called "Huk Ovi Aponi-VI". I don't have access to the Wikipedia helicopter to be sure what's there, so I'll say delete. Magnolia677 ( talk) 21:17, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The locale lacks any notability beyond the local level. TH1980 ( talk) 02:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- delete I did find one source that explained this somewhat [1]. It describes the place as a spring and says that a house was built in 1896 there, which is certainly consistent with the Hopi-style dwelling close by. That said, one house by a spring is not a notable settlement. Mangoe ( talk) 04:05, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The only thing I could find about it is this article in Wiki and same thing in some other unknown websites. Idunnox3 ( talk) 23:04, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Keepper WP:GEOLAND. US Department of the Interior publication "Decisions on Geographic Names in the United States" published in 1995 identifies it as "populated place", and ref added to the article. RecycledPixels ( talk) 04:30, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- WP:GEOLAND was recently updated and now states that that source (GNIS) is not reliable for establishing the notability of populated places (it sometimes misidentifies family farms and railroad sidings as "populated places").
Magnolia677 (
talk)
05:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not referring to
GNIS, which, as I understand it, is a database. This was a DOI publication. It's currently reference #3 in the article.
RecycledPixels (
talk)
05:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently, the URL I linked in the reference wasn't very useful, so I've updated it, so hopefully it points to the correct location.
RecycledPixels (
talk)
05:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Striking keep after reading the GNIS article. I am not persuaded that the source I found and added is sufficiently different from the GNIS database that has problems identifying populated places. RecycledPixels ( talk) 06:08, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently, the URL I linked in the reference wasn't very useful, so I've updated it, so hopefully it points to the correct location.
RecycledPixels (
talk)
05:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not referring to
GNIS, which, as I understand it, is a database. This was a DOI publication. It's currently reference #3 in the article.
RecycledPixels (
talk)
05:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- WP:GEOLAND was recently updated and now states that that source (GNIS) is not reliable for establishing the notability of populated places (it sometimes misidentifies family farms and railroad sidings as "populated places").
Magnolia677 (
talk)
05:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Additional source "Becoming Hopi: A History" through Google Books mentions Mumurva, and identifies it as a spring on page 37. A second book, "Hopi Animal Stories", also on Google Books, makes a passing mention of Mumurva, and identifies it as a spring (p.58). Not a settled place. Both mentions are trivial in nature and not enough to satisfy WP:GNG RecycledPixels ( talk) 18:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Snow delete. No reliable source indicating this is a populated place Firsfron of Ronchester 19:23, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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Could not find any coverage of this place under any of its names. Appears to have just been a well. – dlthewave ☎ 19:56, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Arizona. – dlthewave ☎ 19:56, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - On satellite it's in the middle of nowhere, way up at the end of "Indian Route 13". There are some buildings scattered about too, but I found nothing online about this place. It's also called "Huk Ovi Aponi-VI". I don't have access to the Wikipedia helicopter to be sure what's there, so I'll say delete. Magnolia677 ( talk) 21:17, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The locale lacks any notability beyond the local level. TH1980 ( talk) 02:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- delete I did find one source that explained this somewhat [1]. It describes the place as a spring and says that a house was built in 1896 there, which is certainly consistent with the Hopi-style dwelling close by. That said, one house by a spring is not a notable settlement. Mangoe ( talk) 04:05, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The only thing I could find about it is this article in Wiki and same thing in some other unknown websites. Idunnox3 ( talk) 23:04, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Keepper WP:GEOLAND. US Department of the Interior publication "Decisions on Geographic Names in the United States" published in 1995 identifies it as "populated place", and ref added to the article. RecycledPixels ( talk) 04:30, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- WP:GEOLAND was recently updated and now states that that source (GNIS) is not reliable for establishing the notability of populated places (it sometimes misidentifies family farms and railroad sidings as "populated places").
Magnolia677 (
talk)
05:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not referring to
GNIS, which, as I understand it, is a database. This was a DOI publication. It's currently reference #3 in the article.
RecycledPixels (
talk)
05:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently, the URL I linked in the reference wasn't very useful, so I've updated it, so hopefully it points to the correct location.
RecycledPixels (
talk)
05:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Striking keep after reading the GNIS article. I am not persuaded that the source I found and added is sufficiently different from the GNIS database that has problems identifying populated places. RecycledPixels ( talk) 06:08, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently, the URL I linked in the reference wasn't very useful, so I've updated it, so hopefully it points to the correct location.
RecycledPixels (
talk)
05:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not referring to
GNIS, which, as I understand it, is a database. This was a DOI publication. It's currently reference #3 in the article.
RecycledPixels (
talk)
05:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- WP:GEOLAND was recently updated and now states that that source (GNIS) is not reliable for establishing the notability of populated places (it sometimes misidentifies family farms and railroad sidings as "populated places").
Magnolia677 (
talk)
05:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Additional source "Becoming Hopi: A History" through Google Books mentions Mumurva, and identifies it as a spring on page 37. A second book, "Hopi Animal Stories", also on Google Books, makes a passing mention of Mumurva, and identifies it as a spring (p.58). Not a settled place. Both mentions are trivial in nature and not enough to satisfy WP:GNG RecycledPixels ( talk) 18:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.