The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 09:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC) reply
It happens all the time. A person who is non-notable by Wikipedian standards creates a website or webpage. To create some traffic, (s)he creates an article here. The vanity page consists of ravings, exaggerations and unverifiable facts. Basic demographics are not included. Next we, Wikipedia editors, start looking for leads about this person, demographics etcetera, for verification, NPOVing and notability. The page becomes a knowledge-base on the person. However, the person does not like his birth-names, birth-date, a linked page with information about the dip in his career and/or other biographic facts and (s)he starts trolling through vandalism, edit wars, sockpoppeting, dumping ridiculous threats of legal action etcetera. In some cases, e.g. Monica de Bruyn, notability is then stretched somewhat to prove the point that the person cannot remove the page and we decide on the content. I have always claimed that this is a wrong course of action. A biography of a non-notable person should be deleted regardless of his behavior. We have not succeeded verifying Mrozinski's "nr 1 hit" in Italy, his implying that he was part of Cats was imprecise and he is not mentioned anywhere in the All Music Guide. I suggest deleting the article for non-notability. gidonb 17:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC) reply
The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 09:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC) reply
It happens all the time. A person who is non-notable by Wikipedian standards creates a website or webpage. To create some traffic, (s)he creates an article here. The vanity page consists of ravings, exaggerations and unverifiable facts. Basic demographics are not included. Next we, Wikipedia editors, start looking for leads about this person, demographics etcetera, for verification, NPOVing and notability. The page becomes a knowledge-base on the person. However, the person does not like his birth-names, birth-date, a linked page with information about the dip in his career and/or other biographic facts and (s)he starts trolling through vandalism, edit wars, sockpoppeting, dumping ridiculous threats of legal action etcetera. In some cases, e.g. Monica de Bruyn, notability is then stretched somewhat to prove the point that the person cannot remove the page and we decide on the content. I have always claimed that this is a wrong course of action. A biography of a non-notable person should be deleted regardless of his behavior. We have not succeeded verifying Mrozinski's "nr 1 hit" in Italy, his implying that he was part of Cats was imprecise and he is not mentioned anywhere in the All Music Guide. I suggest deleting the article for non-notability. gidonb 17:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC) reply