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The result was keep. No new contributors since relist, but in the meantime the wikiproject guidance formerly at WP:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines#Notability of recordings has been rescinded, and the review information provided previously indicates that WP:NALBUM is met. RL0919 ( talk) 00:07, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Mozart Mass K. 139 (Claudio Abbado recording)
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Fails all of the criteria of WP:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines#Notability of recordings. -- Softlavender ( talk) 20:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. note that it also fails WP:NALBUM and WP:COPYVIO. The main bulk of the article consists of long paraphrases of critics reviews - these are certainly violations of copyright. Smerus ( talk) 07:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Comment. The criteria in WP:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines#Notability of recordings is from an essay by a WikiProject and does not carry the broad support of wikipedia policy. Further, this guideline section is currently being considered for removal for WP:NPOV concerns, as well as its conflict with the policy at WP:NALBUM. 4meter4 ( talk) 01:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:NALBUM. The article's COPYVIO issue has been addressed - brief review excerpts will be supplied in due course. For further coverage, please see Hi-Fi News & Record Review, Vol. 122, Issues 1-6, 1977, p. 4; Fanfare, Vol. 5, Issues 1-3, 1981, p. 204; American Record Guide, Vol. 40, Issues 8-11, 1977, p. 20; La Civiltà cattolica, Issues 3163-3168, 1982, p. 208; The New Records, Vol. 44-45, 1976, p. 65; The Penguin Guide to Compact Discs, 1999, p. 906. Niggle1892 ( talk) 16:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per criteria 1 of WP:NALBUM. The work was reviewed in multiple publications, including: Gramophone (see here); The Choral Journal (professional journal of the American Choral Directors Association) "A Select Annotated Discography of the Choral Works of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart", April 1991, ([see here); Records and Recording: Classical Guide, Ateş Orga, Josephine Orga, Midas Books, 1978, page 302; and High Fidelity, Volume 23, 1978, Page 237. 4meter4 ( talk) 18:29, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 23:55, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Comment I think the multiplicity of reviews is enough to prove notability. Niggle1892 ( talk) 02:43, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. No new contributors since relist, but in the meantime the wikiproject guidance formerly at WP:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines#Notability of recordings has been rescinded, and the review information provided previously indicates that WP:NALBUM is met. RL0919 ( talk) 00:07, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Mozart Mass K. 139 (Claudio Abbado recording)
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Fails all of the criteria of WP:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines#Notability of recordings. -- Softlavender ( talk) 20:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. note that it also fails WP:NALBUM and WP:COPYVIO. The main bulk of the article consists of long paraphrases of critics reviews - these are certainly violations of copyright. Smerus ( talk) 07:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Comment. The criteria in WP:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines#Notability of recordings is from an essay by a WikiProject and does not carry the broad support of wikipedia policy. Further, this guideline section is currently being considered for removal for WP:NPOV concerns, as well as its conflict with the policy at WP:NALBUM. 4meter4 ( talk) 01:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:NALBUM. The article's COPYVIO issue has been addressed - brief review excerpts will be supplied in due course. For further coverage, please see Hi-Fi News & Record Review, Vol. 122, Issues 1-6, 1977, p. 4; Fanfare, Vol. 5, Issues 1-3, 1981, p. 204; American Record Guide, Vol. 40, Issues 8-11, 1977, p. 20; La Civiltà cattolica, Issues 3163-3168, 1982, p. 208; The New Records, Vol. 44-45, 1976, p. 65; The Penguin Guide to Compact Discs, 1999, p. 906. Niggle1892 ( talk) 16:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per criteria 1 of WP:NALBUM. The work was reviewed in multiple publications, including: Gramophone (see here); The Choral Journal (professional journal of the American Choral Directors Association) "A Select Annotated Discography of the Choral Works of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart", April 1991, ([see here); Records and Recording: Classical Guide, Ateş Orga, Josephine Orga, Midas Books, 1978, page 302; and High Fidelity, Volume 23, 1978, Page 237. 4meter4 ( talk) 18:29, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 23:55, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Comment I think the multiplicity of reviews is enough to prove notability. Niggle1892 ( talk) 02:43, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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