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The result was keep. Sandstein 07:56, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Mountain Goat Beer
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elaborate promotional article on not very important brewery. The contents is almost entirely a catalog listing . DGG ( talk ) 08:29, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete Per nomination: this is an ad for this company. Nick-D ( talk) 09:08, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Craft/micro breweries are becoming more prominent in Australia, and especially Victoria. I think the business has significant coverage, e.g. this article in the Herald Sun about being bought out by Asahi. The article was also created in 2005 by en editor who worked on a wide range of Melbourne and Australia related topics, so it was not begun as a promotional article. Therefore we should be using editorial means to remove any promotional content from the article rather than deleting it altogether. At the absolute worst it should be redirected to Asahi Breweries, but I think even that would be overkill. Jenks24 ( talk) 09:46, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Possibly merge to Asahi Breweries as per WP:ATD-M. North America 1000 10:24, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. I agree with Jenks24. Craft beers are getting a lot of notice particularly in Melbourne. However, I would not object to a redirect provided a reasonable amount of the content was actually merged to Asahi Breweries. -- Bduke (Discussion) 20:08, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep, one of their beers has won numerous Australian International Beer Awards medals so we can either have an article on this specific beer or the brewery that makes it, i go with the latter. Coolabahapple ( talk) 07:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. It definitely has sufficient notability from what I've seen, although I think the wiki article could probably do without the laundry list of one-off beers (not sure what to do about that though). Anyway, here is some improved or more noteworthy sourcing from a very quick search if anyone wants to use these or move the list to the article's talkpage:
- http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/restaurants-and-bars/crafty-goats-20121022-280hx.html
- http://www.beat.com.au/music/mountain-goat-beer
- http://www.couriermail.com.au/lifestyle/food/qld-taste/beer-of-the-year-mountain-goat-beer-claims-champion-beer-of-australia-queensland-taste-reveals/news-story/4f7ba8d03b1e7fbd100a1a520dce9756
- http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1304/S00319/mountain-goat-beer-now-available-in-nz-the-goat-story.htm
- https://www.goodfood.com.au/eat-out/news/raising-a-glass-to-gary-the-goat-20171117-gznf5y
- http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/melbourne-craft-beer-brewery-mountain-goat-sold-to-asahi/news-story/4883a7e6f8d1dec5de027f57ed73e56b
- https://www.theurbanlist.com/melbourne/directory/mountain-goat-brewery
SunChaser ( talk) 02:02, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - satisfies WP:NBUSINESS. Dan arndt ( talk) 01:23, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Sandstein 07:56, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Mountain Goat Beer
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elaborate promotional article on not very important brewery. The contents is almost entirely a catalog listing . DGG ( talk ) 08:29, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete Per nomination: this is an ad for this company. Nick-D ( talk) 09:08, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Craft/micro breweries are becoming more prominent in Australia, and especially Victoria. I think the business has significant coverage, e.g. this article in the Herald Sun about being bought out by Asahi. The article was also created in 2005 by en editor who worked on a wide range of Melbourne and Australia related topics, so it was not begun as a promotional article. Therefore we should be using editorial means to remove any promotional content from the article rather than deleting it altogether. At the absolute worst it should be redirected to Asahi Breweries, but I think even that would be overkill. Jenks24 ( talk) 09:46, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
- Possibly merge to Asahi Breweries as per WP:ATD-M. North America 1000 10:24, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. I agree with Jenks24. Craft beers are getting a lot of notice particularly in Melbourne. However, I would not object to a redirect provided a reasonable amount of the content was actually merged to Asahi Breweries. -- Bduke (Discussion) 20:08, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep, one of their beers has won numerous Australian International Beer Awards medals so we can either have an article on this specific beer or the brewery that makes it, i go with the latter. Coolabahapple ( talk) 07:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. It definitely has sufficient notability from what I've seen, although I think the wiki article could probably do without the laundry list of one-off beers (not sure what to do about that though). Anyway, here is some improved or more noteworthy sourcing from a very quick search if anyone wants to use these or move the list to the article's talkpage:
- http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/restaurants-and-bars/crafty-goats-20121022-280hx.html
- http://www.beat.com.au/music/mountain-goat-beer
- http://www.couriermail.com.au/lifestyle/food/qld-taste/beer-of-the-year-mountain-goat-beer-claims-champion-beer-of-australia-queensland-taste-reveals/news-story/4f7ba8d03b1e7fbd100a1a520dce9756
- http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1304/S00319/mountain-goat-beer-now-available-in-nz-the-goat-story.htm
- https://www.goodfood.com.au/eat-out/news/raising-a-glass-to-gary-the-goat-20171117-gznf5y
- http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/melbourne-craft-beer-brewery-mountain-goat-sold-to-asahi/news-story/4883a7e6f8d1dec5de027f57ed73e56b
- https://www.theurbanlist.com/melbourne/directory/mountain-goat-brewery
SunChaser ( talk) 02:02, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - satisfies WP:NBUSINESS. Dan arndt ( talk) 01:23, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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