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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
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The story in the article about moving the place, ostensibly from Durham, is almost certainly false: Gudde states that the name is a corruption of "Mortmere", that is, "Dead Sea", a name that only became meaningful with the formation of the Salton Sea. At any rate, he also calls it a station, not a town, and maps show a long passing siding which is still in use. What passes for a settlement there is a patch of failed development which is worth a trip to Google Streetview to see in its post-apocalyptic splendor, but there is no evidence it was called Mortmar. Ghits are clickbait and railroad regulation stuff. Not a notable anything. Mangoe ( talk) 16:53, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 16:55, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - Agree with the nom. Everything I see around that area calls it North Shore or Historic North Shore. Even the "marina" and "yacht club" look drab. It looks like it was a swinging place back in the day. The hotel pool looked nice. I especially love the trailer park that, in 2008, had two trailers but, in 2021, now has none. -- ARoseWolf ( Talk) 17:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy delete Durham does not say Mortmar was "relocated", this is a misreprestenation of the source. It says "locality, 22 miles SW of Indio...; the place is near the Salton Sea....Called Mortmere on California Mining Bureau's map...On USGS (1904) map, the name applies to a place located 18 miles southeast of Indio along Southern Pacific Railroad–water of Salton Sea now covers this earlier site. Both the current and former location were sites on the railroad, but there there is no indication either was a settlement of any notability nor any indication they are the same location that was "relocated". Reywas92 Talk 18:26, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Doesn't seems a notable place. Pilean ( talk) 21:41, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete not every place that had some sort of name assigned to it is notable. We need realiabe sourcing showing some sort of actual community. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:53, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
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The story in the article about moving the place, ostensibly from Durham, is almost certainly false: Gudde states that the name is a corruption of "Mortmere", that is, "Dead Sea", a name that only became meaningful with the formation of the Salton Sea. At any rate, he also calls it a station, not a town, and maps show a long passing siding which is still in use. What passes for a settlement there is a patch of failed development which is worth a trip to Google Streetview to see in its post-apocalyptic splendor, but there is no evidence it was called Mortmar. Ghits are clickbait and railroad regulation stuff. Not a notable anything. Mangoe ( talk) 16:53, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 16:55, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 16:55, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Agree with the nom. Everything I see around that area calls it North Shore or Historic North Shore. Even the "marina" and "yacht club" look drab. It looks like it was a swinging place back in the day. The hotel pool looked nice. I especially love the trailer park that, in 2008, had two trailers but, in 2021, now has none. -- ARoseWolf ( Talk) 17:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy delete Durham does not say Mortmar was "relocated", this is a misreprestenation of the source. It says "locality, 22 miles SW of Indio...; the place is near the Salton Sea....Called Mortmere on California Mining Bureau's map...On USGS (1904) map, the name applies to a place located 18 miles southeast of Indio along Southern Pacific Railroad–water of Salton Sea now covers this earlier site. Both the current and former location were sites on the railroad, but there there is no indication either was a settlement of any notability nor any indication they are the same location that was "relocated". Reywas92 Talk 18:26, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Doesn't seems a notable place. Pilean ( talk) 21:41, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete not every place that had some sort of name assigned to it is notable. We need realiabe sourcing showing some sort of actual community. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:53, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.