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The result was keep. Consensus was the subject is notable (non-admin closure) Rollidan ( talk) 03:38, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Morris the Cat
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The fictional character is not independently notable and can be redirected to the product or organization. Lightburst ( talk) 02:12, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep. Morris was a famous advertising character; see this L.A. Times article and this Village Voice article, for example. When Heinz dropped Leo Burnett Company as its advertising agency, the New York Times headlined its article " A Parting of Ways for Heinz And Morris the Cat's Creator". If there isn't support to keep this article, at least redirect it to 9Lives (cat food). -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:07, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep, per Metropolitan90. Also, the cat and campaign were famous enough to warrant an obituary in The New York Times when the first Morris died. -- GentlemanGhost (séance) 02:42, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge Could certainly be included in the 9Lives article. Reywas92 Talk 10:11, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep references found that prove notability. Dream Focus 21:18, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Famous mascot. WP:BEFORE. Bearian ( talk) 16:24, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge. I have a slight preference for merging to
9Lives (cat food) over a straight keep as Metropolitan90 and Reywas92 discuss after reading the above sources in this discussion. Since it's all part of an advertising campaign, that's really the better home. Even though the mascot itself has some notability, I'm not seeing that notability being clearly distinguished from the company advertising or advocacy (i.e., the "home" for Morris' notability already exists elsewhere). If there was a very clear delineation, I'd say keep instead, but in such a case, I'd expect content more worthy of a
WP:SUMMARY section at 9Lives rather than just the short sentence saying
It is best known for its mascot, Morris.
I don't see that kind of high-level content coming out even with additional editing. Kingofaces43 ( talk) 17:57, 13 December 2019 (UTC) - Keep, although I understand the impetus of the nom. As GentlemanGhost points out, the fact that the first Morris has a NYT obit tips the scales in my judgement. Onel5969 TT me 00:38, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Consensus was the subject is notable (non-admin closure) Rollidan ( talk) 03:38, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Morris the Cat
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The fictional character is not independently notable and can be redirected to the product or organization. Lightburst ( talk) 02:12, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep. Morris was a famous advertising character; see this L.A. Times article and this Village Voice article, for example. When Heinz dropped Leo Burnett Company as its advertising agency, the New York Times headlined its article " A Parting of Ways for Heinz And Morris the Cat's Creator". If there isn't support to keep this article, at least redirect it to 9Lives (cat food). -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:07, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep, per Metropolitan90. Also, the cat and campaign were famous enough to warrant an obituary in The New York Times when the first Morris died. -- GentlemanGhost (séance) 02:42, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge Could certainly be included in the 9Lives article. Reywas92 Talk 10:11, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep references found that prove notability. Dream Focus 21:18, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Famous mascot. WP:BEFORE. Bearian ( talk) 16:24, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge. I have a slight preference for merging to
9Lives (cat food) over a straight keep as Metropolitan90 and Reywas92 discuss after reading the above sources in this discussion. Since it's all part of an advertising campaign, that's really the better home. Even though the mascot itself has some notability, I'm not seeing that notability being clearly distinguished from the company advertising or advocacy (i.e., the "home" for Morris' notability already exists elsewhere). If there was a very clear delineation, I'd say keep instead, but in such a case, I'd expect content more worthy of a
WP:SUMMARY section at 9Lives rather than just the short sentence saying
It is best known for its mascot, Morris.
I don't see that kind of high-level content coming out even with additional editing. Kingofaces43 ( talk) 17:57, 13 December 2019 (UTC) - Keep, although I understand the impetus of the nom. As GentlemanGhost points out, the fact that the first Morris has a NYT obit tips the scales in my judgement. Onel5969 TT me 00:38, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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