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The result was keep. sufficient consensus DGG ( talk ) 02:31, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Morocco World News
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Deleted by me as A7 a few days ago. Restoring for full AfD so the issue can be fully settled. I personally don't think this meets either WP:NNEWSPAPER or WP:GNG, despite having a claim of being the largest English Moroccan news source. It fails all the criteria of NNEWSPAPER, and although it is sometimes quoted in other articles, I have been unable to find any in-depth reliable sources about it which would indicate it meets GNG. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 23:27, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
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Keep Hereby, I will post all references and links and international media mentions of Morocco World News as a prime source and as an established news tabloid from Morocco that will establish its credibility and the reason that earlier editors had approved it for so many months it was not removed, it is the only english national paper of Morocco:
1. Centre for International Media Assistance [1]
"Anthony Abate is one such stakeholder. Abate, a current Peace Corps volunteer in Morocco and CIMA alum, is part of a team working on Morocco World News Junior, the youth platform of the country’s largest English-language news website, Morocco World News. Slated for a February 2015 launch, Morocco World News Junior aims to involve Moroccan youth in news production and, as Abate says, “realize that news and media is something that can be interactive and fun.”
2. Atlantic Council: [2]
3. Energy UK: [3]
4. Used Wikipedia as source but now link is missing because of sudden deletion: [4]
5. AlArabiya quotes it: [5]
6. AL Jazeera has MWN founders profile: [6]
7. Some more links: [7] 8. [8] 9. [9] 10. [10] 11. [11] 12. [12] 13. [13]
14. International Bussiness Times: [14] 15. The New Arab: [15] 16. [16] 17. [17] 18. [18] 19. [19] 20. [20] 21. [21] 22. has AFP subscription: [22]
Gamesofwikithrones ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:NNEWSPAPER criterium 4: The periodical has had regular and significant usage as a citation in academic or scholarly works. This is the link to backup my claim. It is also routinely quoted a lot by regular papers, see for example 1 or 2. Worldwide really. Listed #13 among Moroccan news sites but getting more international attention since in English. gidonb ( talk) 06:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Relisting comment: I have re-opened this discussion per a discussion on my talk page in the hopes of getting a little more participation. While the consensus to Keep did exist, with only two votes it was fairly weak.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem ( talk) 22:28, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
- Weak Keep e-newspaper is a fancy word for "website". However, it's English-language, which makes it easier to evaluate. [23] is good secondary coverage, the other references are trivial and the article would probably be better if written entirely based off the IBTimes article and primary sources. This is a borderline case; I default to keep here simply to aid in situations where the site is used as a reference. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 00:42, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Fair speaking the sources provided above clearly passes guideline WP:GNG. User Gamesofwikithrones did a terrific work, sometimes things are deleted because nobody is willing or able to mine for sources (which isn't easy for some topics). I opended all the contents and believe some are trivial indeed, but some are not. Such combination is acceptable way of meeting WP:GNG. I concur with what Power~enwiki said above, despite the name it is actually a website. Then finally it should be clearly said here that WP:NNEWSPAPER is an essay not policy not guideline. – Ammarpad ( talk) 08:57, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. sufficient consensus DGG ( talk ) 02:31, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Morocco World News
- Morocco World News ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Deleted by me as A7 a few days ago. Restoring for full AfD so the issue can be fully settled. I personally don't think this meets either WP:NNEWSPAPER or WP:GNG, despite having a claim of being the largest English Moroccan news source. It fails all the criteria of NNEWSPAPER, and although it is sometimes quoted in other articles, I have been unable to find any in-depth reliable sources about it which would indicate it meets GNG. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 23:27, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. CThomas3 ( talk) 19:06, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. CThomas3 ( talk) 19:06, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Morocco-related deletion discussions. CThomas3 ( talk) 19:06, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
Keep Hereby, I will post all references and links and international media mentions of Morocco World News as a prime source and as an established news tabloid from Morocco that will establish its credibility and the reason that earlier editors had approved it for so many months it was not removed, it is the only english national paper of Morocco:
1. Centre for International Media Assistance [1]
"Anthony Abate is one such stakeholder. Abate, a current Peace Corps volunteer in Morocco and CIMA alum, is part of a team working on Morocco World News Junior, the youth platform of the country’s largest English-language news website, Morocco World News. Slated for a February 2015 launch, Morocco World News Junior aims to involve Moroccan youth in news production and, as Abate says, “realize that news and media is something that can be interactive and fun.”
2. Atlantic Council: [2]
3. Energy UK: [3]
4. Used Wikipedia as source but now link is missing because of sudden deletion: [4]
5. AlArabiya quotes it: [5]
6. AL Jazeera has MWN founders profile: [6]
7. Some more links: [7] 8. [8] 9. [9] 10. [10] 11. [11] 12. [12] 13. [13]
14. International Bussiness Times: [14] 15. The New Arab: [15] 16. [16] 17. [17] 18. [18] 19. [19] 20. [20] 21. [21] 22. has AFP subscription: [22]
Gamesofwikithrones ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:NNEWSPAPER criterium 4: The periodical has had regular and significant usage as a citation in academic or scholarly works. This is the link to backup my claim. It is also routinely quoted a lot by regular papers, see for example 1 or 2. Worldwide really. Listed #13 among Moroccan news sites but getting more international attention since in English. gidonb ( talk) 06:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Relisting comment: I have re-opened this discussion per a discussion on my talk page in the hopes of getting a little more participation. While the consensus to Keep did exist, with only two votes it was fairly weak.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem ( talk) 22:28, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
- Weak Keep e-newspaper is a fancy word for "website". However, it's English-language, which makes it easier to evaluate. [23] is good secondary coverage, the other references are trivial and the article would probably be better if written entirely based off the IBTimes article and primary sources. This is a borderline case; I default to keep here simply to aid in situations where the site is used as a reference. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 00:42, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Fair speaking the sources provided above clearly passes guideline WP:GNG. User Gamesofwikithrones did a terrific work, sometimes things are deleted because nobody is willing or able to mine for sources (which isn't easy for some topics). I opended all the contents and believe some are trivial indeed, but some are not. Such combination is acceptable way of meeting WP:GNG. I concur with what Power~enwiki said above, despite the name it is actually a website. Then finally it should be clearly said here that WP:NNEWSPAPER is an essay not policy not guideline. – Ammarpad ( talk) 08:57, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
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