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delete per nom. I have to say the capitalisation threw me off. I'm actually surprised this is considered non-notable as I would have thought there would be a decent amount of coverage but as the prev AFDs have shown, there's actually not much there. ---
PageantUpdater (
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00:37, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment I linked it to
de:Miss Intercontinental in WikiData. Several non-English Wikis have articles. If this closes as "delete" we should take note of the fact that we are saying that this pageant is not notable in the English-speaking world and explicitly state that we are not making any comments on its notability in non-English-speaking parts of the world. Or, we should explicitly state that we believe that the pageant is not notable, period, for any Wikipedia which has notability standards similar to the English Wikipedia. While I'm tempted to recommend the second option as it seems to be the case, it seems a bit arrogant for us to say so, therefore I am instead recommending the first option.
davidwr/(
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01:40, 6 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Abstain for now with comment In light of the other-language Wikis I am abstaining for now. However, if it is deleted, it should be salted as it has been repeatedly re-created under various names. The creating editor should be told why it was deleted and salted and why it should not be re-created without going through a process like draft, AFC, or DRV, and that any review process should be done by editors familiar with the deletion history of the articles on the topic.
davidwr/(
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01:42, 6 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak keep based on age and large contestant pool. Never heard of it before now, but this is one of the reasons I'd like an SNG -- to say "this group of pageants is a ____ (yes or no) because..." If I were to see evidence that, for example, contestants are bilked of money, or promised something not given, i.e. evidence of fakery or sleeze, I would be willing to reconsider my position,
Montanabw(talk)03:55, 7 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. Not finding substantial coverage by independent reliable sources. I found one article about the pageant itself. Everything else was limited to passing mentions, mainly that a contestant is going to the pageant. Nothing that supports the content of the current article.
• Gene93k (
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00:57, 11 September 2016 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
delete per nom. I have to say the capitalisation threw me off. I'm actually surprised this is considered non-notable as I would have thought there would be a decent amount of coverage but as the prev AFDs have shown, there's actually not much there. ---
PageantUpdater (
talk)
00:37, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment I linked it to
de:Miss Intercontinental in WikiData. Several non-English Wikis have articles. If this closes as "delete" we should take note of the fact that we are saying that this pageant is not notable in the English-speaking world and explicitly state that we are not making any comments on its notability in non-English-speaking parts of the world. Or, we should explicitly state that we believe that the pageant is not notable, period, for any Wikipedia which has notability standards similar to the English Wikipedia. While I'm tempted to recommend the second option as it seems to be the case, it seems a bit arrogant for us to say so, therefore I am instead recommending the first option.
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs)
01:40, 6 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Abstain for now with comment In light of the other-language Wikis I am abstaining for now. However, if it is deleted, it should be salted as it has been repeatedly re-created under various names. The creating editor should be told why it was deleted and salted and why it should not be re-created without going through a process like draft, AFC, or DRV, and that any review process should be done by editors familiar with the deletion history of the articles on the topic.
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs)
01:42, 6 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak keep based on age and large contestant pool. Never heard of it before now, but this is one of the reasons I'd like an SNG -- to say "this group of pageants is a ____ (yes or no) because..." If I were to see evidence that, for example, contestants are bilked of money, or promised something not given, i.e. evidence of fakery or sleeze, I would be willing to reconsider my position,
Montanabw(talk)03:55, 7 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. Not finding substantial coverage by independent reliable sources. I found one article about the pageant itself. Everything else was limited to passing mentions, mainly that a contestant is going to the pageant. Nothing that supports the content of the current article.
• Gene93k (
talk)
00:57, 11 September 2016 (UTC)reply
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