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The result was Draftify. Those arguing for keep failed to establish NACTOR had been met. There is possibly one major role in a notable production, but that is insufficient to meet the guideline. I was considering closing this as redirect to
Stand My Heroes as suggested by Link20XX but not only does that page not mention her, but their is not a cast list at all.
SpinningSpark17:05, 24 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I do not think this person meets
WP:NACTOR. Per NACTOR, they must have multiple significant roles in notable productions. Looking at their roles list, most of them are "boy" or "passersby", which I strongly doubt are more than additional voices. As for their named roles:
W'z, just the "young" version of the character. While I haven't seen this series, from what I have seen of other series the "young" voice is rarely used and only makes brief appearances when it does.
I don't see how Kaine could be a re-occuring character if they have only made small appearances in one of the series three seasons. The ANN encyclopedia has a very low bar to bold a character as major. I have now seen a bit of Peach Boy Riverside and I can confirm that character makes only small appearances. As for the first point you made,
WP:NACTOR requires productions to be notable to count, which
Stand My Heroes: Piece of Truth is not. The Japanese article
ja:村井美里 also has a bold system for major characters, however the only one bolded is the role in Stand My Heroes: Piece of Truth, which is not notable. NACTOR also requires multiple significant roles, meaning more than one.
Link20XX (
talk)
18:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10631701/ Peach Boy Riverside he has been in six episodes. If the voice actor gets a news article about them being the main character in a series, that adds to their claim of Wikipedia notability. Stand My Heroes is a notable anime since it gets news mention about. I just created a stub article for it.
DreamFocus21:47, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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edit conflict) You're really using IMBd for that? I say as someone who has seen the episodes of it that have been released, it is not a major role. As far as Stand My Heroes, it now has an article so it counts, however, NACTOR explicitly states that multiple are required.
Link20XX (
talk)
21:50, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment For what it's worth, the various
Yo-kai Watch roles are also all minor roles; a "young" version of a main character and then a bunch of minor one-off characters.
Mlb96 (
talk)
21:54, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
However, the jawiki article includes
this, which seems to be secondary coverage of an interview. I have no idea if this source should be treated like an interview or like secondary coverage.
Mlb96 (
talk)
22:30, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I admit my Japanese isn't good, however, that post appears to be covering the radio show and just states that she had an appeance on it, not really SIGCOV. On the topic of possible ATDs, I wouldn't be opposed to redirecting to
Stand My Heroes since this is her only major role.
Link20XX (
talk)
00:02, 5 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete or Incubate The lack of multiple, notable major roles (nor significant contributions under point 3 of
WP:NACTOR) should make this a pretty open and shut case. Incubate could be an option here, but the author has yet to engage in this discussion - making it unclear how useful incubation would be. As a result of not meeting notability (without comments from the author indicating any interest disputing this deletion nor proposing alternative options) deletion seems like the best option here. There is only consensus on one role being a major one, and I don't see how the other roles currently listed, fit NACTOR.
Canadianerk (
talk)
12:04, 18 October 2021 (UTC)reply
It's great she has done one major role, and has done small and supporting roles. But when it comes to NACTOR, it needs to be multiple major roles. This is why I proposed incubating - returning it to your drafts, and you can easily repost when she gets a second (or more) major roles. In the interim, the post as it is today does not meet notability requirements - it shouldn't just be left up in hopes she gets announced for another major role.
Canadianerk (
talk)
13:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Draftify. Those arguing for keep failed to establish NACTOR had been met. There is possibly one major role in a notable production, but that is insufficient to meet the guideline. I was considering closing this as redirect to
Stand My Heroes as suggested by Link20XX but not only does that page not mention her, but their is not a cast list at all.
SpinningSpark17:05, 24 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I do not think this person meets
WP:NACTOR. Per NACTOR, they must have multiple significant roles in notable productions. Looking at their roles list, most of them are "boy" or "passersby", which I strongly doubt are more than additional voices. As for their named roles:
W'z, just the "young" version of the character. While I haven't seen this series, from what I have seen of other series the "young" voice is rarely used and only makes brief appearances when it does.
I don't see how Kaine could be a re-occuring character if they have only made small appearances in one of the series three seasons. The ANN encyclopedia has a very low bar to bold a character as major. I have now seen a bit of Peach Boy Riverside and I can confirm that character makes only small appearances. As for the first point you made,
WP:NACTOR requires productions to be notable to count, which
Stand My Heroes: Piece of Truth is not. The Japanese article
ja:村井美里 also has a bold system for major characters, however the only one bolded is the role in Stand My Heroes: Piece of Truth, which is not notable. NACTOR also requires multiple significant roles, meaning more than one.
Link20XX (
talk)
18:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10631701/ Peach Boy Riverside he has been in six episodes. If the voice actor gets a news article about them being the main character in a series, that adds to their claim of Wikipedia notability. Stand My Heroes is a notable anime since it gets news mention about. I just created a stub article for it.
DreamFocus21:47, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
(
edit conflict) You're really using IMBd for that? I say as someone who has seen the episodes of it that have been released, it is not a major role. As far as Stand My Heroes, it now has an article so it counts, however, NACTOR explicitly states that multiple are required.
Link20XX (
talk)
21:50, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment For what it's worth, the various
Yo-kai Watch roles are also all minor roles; a "young" version of a main character and then a bunch of minor one-off characters.
Mlb96 (
talk)
21:54, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
However, the jawiki article includes
this, which seems to be secondary coverage of an interview. I have no idea if this source should be treated like an interview or like secondary coverage.
Mlb96 (
talk)
22:30, 3 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I admit my Japanese isn't good, however, that post appears to be covering the radio show and just states that she had an appeance on it, not really SIGCOV. On the topic of possible ATDs, I wouldn't be opposed to redirecting to
Stand My Heroes since this is her only major role.
Link20XX (
talk)
00:02, 5 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete or Incubate The lack of multiple, notable major roles (nor significant contributions under point 3 of
WP:NACTOR) should make this a pretty open and shut case. Incubate could be an option here, but the author has yet to engage in this discussion - making it unclear how useful incubation would be. As a result of not meeting notability (without comments from the author indicating any interest disputing this deletion nor proposing alternative options) deletion seems like the best option here. There is only consensus on one role being a major one, and I don't see how the other roles currently listed, fit NACTOR.
Canadianerk (
talk)
12:04, 18 October 2021 (UTC)reply
It's great she has done one major role, and has done small and supporting roles. But when it comes to NACTOR, it needs to be multiple major roles. This is why I proposed incubating - returning it to your drafts, and you can easily repost when she gets a second (or more) major roles. In the interim, the post as it is today does not meet notability requirements - it shouldn't just be left up in hopes she gets announced for another major role.
Canadianerk (
talk)
13:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.