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The result was Userfy. (non-admin closure) — Music1201 talk 03:54, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
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Subject does not appear to be notable. She apparently won an award last year but that's about it. A number of the references are mentions or to the subject's own website. Philafrenzy ( talk) 21:53, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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Philafrenzy: Please check these two references (sorry if they're Japanese):
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[2]. They're primarily about her, so if anything, at the very least she passes
WP:GNG.
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- Here's another source ( [3]) which discusses her in some detail (i.e. it verifies she passed an audition). The source is Oricon which is regarded as a reliable source when it comes to Japanese entertainment. [4] includes an interview with her and another Macross Delta singer, JUNNA. I'm sorry if most of the coverage about her is in Japanese, but you need to understand that, most coverage about Japanese subjects is in that language, and coverage in English (particularly for newcomers like Suzuki) can indeed be lacking. But our notability guidelines do not discount the use of Japanese (or any other foreign language source) in articles. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 22:06, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that Japanese sources are fine, if they show notability. That is what this nomination will assess. Philafrenzy ( talk) 22:14, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 22:01, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Comment At 18 and with only one role this is going to be a very hard one to prove notability. Finding RS for the audition and role is clearly easy to do, it's a massive franchise so it will be well covered. However that brings it's own problem, does that make her notable or is it purely based on the popularity of the franchise. Are they even separate? This strikes me as too soon. However I would hope that Bandai Visual link wouldn't be used for passing GNG given they are involved in the franchise production and publication. It's in their interests to promote the lead actress. SephyTheThird ( talk) 23:23, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Deleteper WP:TOOSOON. One role according to VADB. [5] Yes, she won a contest to land the lead role, but that's just a start. Unless the Macross Delta audition process was a reality-TV contest like American Idol, this doesn't give much for notability in multiple works. If you think she is going to have a string of major roles immediately following, then suggest moving her to draft. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 00:42, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 00:45, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Also want to comment whether she's already charted on Oricon because of her role in Macross Delta. That might be enough to keep her or push towards the draft option.
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AngusWOOF: Walküre's single charted on Oricon at a fairly high position.
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- Userfy Narutolovehinata5 per request. The Oricon was part of a band so it isn't exactly her solo career, and still counts along with the Macross Delta credit as a single impact. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 21:38, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Comment - In case the consensus of this discussion ends in a delete outcome, may I request that the article content be moved to either the Draft space or my userspace (preferably the latter). Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 00:01, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Userfy to User:Narutolovehinata5. I think the request is a valid one, I hope this one can be improved =). - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 17:31, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Userfy My existing concerns above haven't been answered and are unlikely to be until time has passes and they get more roles or her work is assessed by reliable sources. One for the future perhaps and always best to give it to someone who is willing to work on it. SephyTheThird ( talk) 18:22, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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The result was Userfy. (non-admin closure) — Music1201 talk 03:54, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- Minori Suzuki ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
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Subject does not appear to be notable. She apparently won an award last year but that's about it. A number of the references are mentions or to the subject's own website. Philafrenzy ( talk) 21:53, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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Philafrenzy: Please check these two references (sorry if they're Japanese):
[1],
[2]. They're primarily about her, so if anything, at the very least she passes
WP:GNG.
Narutolovehinata5
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22:00, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- Here's another source ( [3]) which discusses her in some detail (i.e. it verifies she passed an audition). The source is Oricon which is regarded as a reliable source when it comes to Japanese entertainment. [4] includes an interview with her and another Macross Delta singer, JUNNA. I'm sorry if most of the coverage about her is in Japanese, but you need to understand that, most coverage about Japanese subjects is in that language, and coverage in English (particularly for newcomers like Suzuki) can indeed be lacking. But our notability guidelines do not discount the use of Japanese (or any other foreign language source) in articles. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 22:06, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that Japanese sources are fine, if they show notability. That is what this nomination will assess. Philafrenzy ( talk) 22:14, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 22:01, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 22:01, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment At 18 and with only one role this is going to be a very hard one to prove notability. Finding RS for the audition and role is clearly easy to do, it's a massive franchise so it will be well covered. However that brings it's own problem, does that make her notable or is it purely based on the popularity of the franchise. Are they even separate? This strikes me as too soon. However I would hope that Bandai Visual link wouldn't be used for passing GNG given they are involved in the franchise production and publication. It's in their interests to promote the lead actress. SephyTheThird ( talk) 23:23, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Deleteper WP:TOOSOON. One role according to VADB. [5] Yes, she won a contest to land the lead role, but that's just a start. Unless the Macross Delta audition process was a reality-TV contest like American Idol, this doesn't give much for notability in multiple works. If you think she is going to have a string of major roles immediately following, then suggest moving her to draft. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 00:42, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 00:45, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Also want to comment whether she's already charted on Oricon because of her role in Macross Delta. That might be enough to keep her or push towards the draft option.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff)
00:48, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
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AngusWOOF: Walküre's single charted on Oricon at a fairly high position.
Narutolovehinata5
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03:02, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Userfy Narutolovehinata5 per request. The Oricon was part of a band so it isn't exactly her solo career, and still counts along with the Macross Delta credit as a single impact. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 21:38, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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AngusWOOF: Walküre's single charted on Oricon at a fairly high position.
Narutolovehinata5
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03:02, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - In case the consensus of this discussion ends in a delete outcome, may I request that the article content be moved to either the Draft space or my userspace (preferably the latter). Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 00:01, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Userfy to User:Narutolovehinata5. I think the request is a valid one, I hope this one can be improved =). - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 17:31, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Userfy My existing concerns above haven't been answered and are unlikely to be until time has passes and they get more roles or her work is assessed by reliable sources. One for the future perhaps and always best to give it to someone who is willing to work on it. SephyTheThird ( talk) 18:22, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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