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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 07:31, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Miniloft
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Non-notable hotel without any media coverage. Created in 2012 by an account whose only edit is this article. Likely promotional, only references are a link that goes nowhere and the hotel's own website. Fritzmann ( message me) 22:55, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep. I added some references. The awards seem to establish notability. When I google Miniloft Berlin, I get articles about Frizz23, which seems to be a related project that might include the second Miniloft building, but I'm not sure of that. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 04:45, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 23:45, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, even though my knee-jerk reaction was non-notability. The architectural nominations alone would clear WP:N... if someone can source them, please? Last1in ( talk) 20:43, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep per sources currently cited. I am annoyed by the tendency of what look like good sources to turn out to be 404s or moribund Flash sites, and I suspect but cannot verify that the Berliner Architekturpreis was an honorable mention (Auszeichnung) rather than a prizewinning finish. But the important thing is that it seems like we have enough to build a reasonable article from, satisfying the GNG. Of course there is still the matter of sorting out the subject matter. FWIW I understand Frizz23 to be the same as Miniloft Kreuzberg (so to speak the "third" Miniloft building, after Slender and Bender in Mitte). That raises some questions in my mind whether all three of these buildings really represent enough of a cohesive thing that we should be dealing with them in the same article, but I suppose there's no particular harm in starting out that way and splitting if sources become sufficiently numerous. -- Visviva ( talk) 02:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- This article has the tragic problem of probably being architecturally notable, but sourced primarily with hotel reviews. There's only one GNG qualifying source in the article itself, and the article only alludes to more. SportingFlyer T· C 17:14, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 07:31, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Miniloft
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Non-notable hotel without any media coverage. Created in 2012 by an account whose only edit is this article. Likely promotional, only references are a link that goes nowhere and the hotel's own website. Fritzmann ( message me) 22:55, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Fritzmann ( message me) 22:55, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 04:49, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. I added some references. The awards seem to establish notability. When I google Miniloft Berlin, I get articles about Frizz23, which seems to be a related project that might include the second Miniloft building, but I'm not sure of that. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 04:45, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 23:45, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, even though my knee-jerk reaction was non-notability. The architectural nominations alone would clear WP:N... if someone can source them, please? Last1in ( talk) 20:43, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep per sources currently cited. I am annoyed by the tendency of what look like good sources to turn out to be 404s or moribund Flash sites, and I suspect but cannot verify that the Berliner Architekturpreis was an honorable mention (Auszeichnung) rather than a prizewinning finish. But the important thing is that it seems like we have enough to build a reasonable article from, satisfying the GNG. Of course there is still the matter of sorting out the subject matter. FWIW I understand Frizz23 to be the same as Miniloft Kreuzberg (so to speak the "third" Miniloft building, after Slender and Bender in Mitte). That raises some questions in my mind whether all three of these buildings really represent enough of a cohesive thing that we should be dealing with them in the same article, but I suppose there's no particular harm in starting out that way and splitting if sources become sufficiently numerous. -- Visviva ( talk) 02:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- This article has the tragic problem of probably being architecturally notable, but sourced primarily with hotel reviews. There's only one GNG qualifying source in the article itself, and the article only alludes to more. SportingFlyer T· C 17:14, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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