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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Matt14451 ( talk) 14:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Milkshake Duck
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Per WP:NAD. Neologism that was used for a short time and got some coverage. Most of this is about Internet celebrities. The Oxford dictionary quote should tell you everything about this - "did not consider usage of the neologism to be sufficiently long-lived or widespread to warrant inclusion in their dictionaries". The fact that the word was used in a podcast is deemed relevant to this article should also tell you a lot about the notability of the term. RoseCherry64 ( talk) 01:39, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. —AE ( talk • contributions) 01:59, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep – Passes WP:GNG and has received a fair amount of ongoing coverage. See some source examples below; more sources exist in addition to these examples. Furthermore, it was Macquarie Dictionary's word of the year and is included in the Macquarie Dictionary. North America 1000 06:16, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
References
- The Macquarie Dictionary's word of the year, 'milkshake duck', sums up the social media era. Business Insider
- Macquarie Dictionary's 2017 Word of the Year. SBS.
- What is a milkshake duck? And why isn't it the word of the year?. The Guardian.
- 'Milkshake Duck' is the perfect word of the year for 2017. Mashable.
- How a Joke Becomes a Meme: The Birth of ‘Milkshake Duck’. The New York Times.
- Milkshake Duck: what it is, and why it’s coming for us all. Vox.
- Milkshake duck: The Australian word that went 'universal'. BBC.
- The best 'milkshake ducks' of recent history. Newshub.
- A Conversation with the Guy Who Invented the Milkshake Duck Meme. Esquire.
- Obvious keep - You do realize that there were more than 160,000 page views to this page in the past year, with some significant spikes. Check the activity graph to see it is no fringe term and that people are actively going to Wikipedia to read about this. [1]. I'm not sure why being "used in a podcast" is some type of pejorative when nearly every major news outlet today is engaged in podcasting. So you're not a fan of them, but how does BBC World Service coverage sound then? ( What is Milkshake Duck, BBC Wolrd Service, 17 Dec 2017) Look at the list of the references, which includes New York Times and ABC News, and you'll see this is very well covered. It's unclear why you're pursuing this particular deletion when it clearly meets notability guidelines and has extensive reliable source coverage. -- Fuzheado | Talk 07:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- "I'm not sure why being "used in a podcast" is some type of pejorative when nearly every major news outlet today is engaged in podcasting."
- Someone briefly mentioning a term in one shouldn't be noted.
- "It's unclear why you're pursuing this particular deletion"
- Really? I cited a particular guideline. It's not a dictionary.
RoseCherry64 (
talk)
07:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- I consider it to be a term, rather than a simple dictionary definition and nothing else. North America 1000 07:53, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Exactly as
Northamerica1000 said. And you cited one specific guideline while ignoring the greater encyclopedic nature of the term. It's more than just a
WP:DICDEF - it's a phenomenon that is being explored in multiple reliable news outlets. --
Fuzheado |
Talk
08:16, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- "greater encyclopedic nature" Most of the coverage is about some controversy related to Tim Soret, a minor video game developer who doesn't even have his own article. It mentions in passing Elon Musk's "pedo guy" comments which have been widely covered, with one reference. I cannot find a single other reference calling Elon Musk a "milkshake duck" in press.
RoseCherry64 (
talk)
08:26, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- I keep seeing cherry-picked issues without an evaluation of the whole picture. Let's just let the !vote chips fall where they may. -- Fuzheado | Talk 13:11, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- "greater encyclopedic nature" Most of the coverage is about some controversy related to Tim Soret, a minor video game developer who doesn't even have his own article. It mentions in passing Elon Musk's "pedo guy" comments which have been widely covered, with one reference. I cannot find a single other reference calling Elon Musk a "milkshake duck" in press.
RoseCherry64 (
talk)
08:26, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - per Fuzhead and Northamerica1000.-- Jorm ( talk) 15:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Matt14451 ( talk) 14:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Milkshake Duck
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Per WP:NAD. Neologism that was used for a short time and got some coverage. Most of this is about Internet celebrities. The Oxford dictionary quote should tell you everything about this - "did not consider usage of the neologism to be sufficiently long-lived or widespread to warrant inclusion in their dictionaries". The fact that the word was used in a podcast is deemed relevant to this article should also tell you a lot about the notability of the term. RoseCherry64 ( talk) 01:39, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. —AE ( talk • contributions) 01:59, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep – Passes WP:GNG and has received a fair amount of ongoing coverage. See some source examples below; more sources exist in addition to these examples. Furthermore, it was Macquarie Dictionary's word of the year and is included in the Macquarie Dictionary. North America 1000 06:16, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
References
- The Macquarie Dictionary's word of the year, 'milkshake duck', sums up the social media era. Business Insider
- Macquarie Dictionary's 2017 Word of the Year. SBS.
- What is a milkshake duck? And why isn't it the word of the year?. The Guardian.
- 'Milkshake Duck' is the perfect word of the year for 2017. Mashable.
- How a Joke Becomes a Meme: The Birth of ‘Milkshake Duck’. The New York Times.
- Milkshake Duck: what it is, and why it’s coming for us all. Vox.
- Milkshake duck: The Australian word that went 'universal'. BBC.
- The best 'milkshake ducks' of recent history. Newshub.
- A Conversation with the Guy Who Invented the Milkshake Duck Meme. Esquire.
- Obvious keep - You do realize that there were more than 160,000 page views to this page in the past year, with some significant spikes. Check the activity graph to see it is no fringe term and that people are actively going to Wikipedia to read about this. [1]. I'm not sure why being "used in a podcast" is some type of pejorative when nearly every major news outlet today is engaged in podcasting. So you're not a fan of them, but how does BBC World Service coverage sound then? ( What is Milkshake Duck, BBC Wolrd Service, 17 Dec 2017) Look at the list of the references, which includes New York Times and ABC News, and you'll see this is very well covered. It's unclear why you're pursuing this particular deletion when it clearly meets notability guidelines and has extensive reliable source coverage. -- Fuzheado | Talk 07:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- "I'm not sure why being "used in a podcast" is some type of pejorative when nearly every major news outlet today is engaged in podcasting."
- Someone briefly mentioning a term in one shouldn't be noted.
- "It's unclear why you're pursuing this particular deletion"
- Really? I cited a particular guideline. It's not a dictionary.
RoseCherry64 (
talk)
07:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- I consider it to be a term, rather than a simple dictionary definition and nothing else. North America 1000 07:53, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Exactly as
Northamerica1000 said. And you cited one specific guideline while ignoring the greater encyclopedic nature of the term. It's more than just a
WP:DICDEF - it's a phenomenon that is being explored in multiple reliable news outlets. --
Fuzheado |
Talk
08:16, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- "greater encyclopedic nature" Most of the coverage is about some controversy related to Tim Soret, a minor video game developer who doesn't even have his own article. It mentions in passing Elon Musk's "pedo guy" comments which have been widely covered, with one reference. I cannot find a single other reference calling Elon Musk a "milkshake duck" in press.
RoseCherry64 (
talk)
08:26, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- I keep seeing cherry-picked issues without an evaluation of the whole picture. Let's just let the !vote chips fall where they may. -- Fuzheado | Talk 13:11, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- "greater encyclopedic nature" Most of the coverage is about some controversy related to Tim Soret, a minor video game developer who doesn't even have his own article. It mentions in passing Elon Musk's "pedo guy" comments which have been widely covered, with one reference. I cannot find a single other reference calling Elon Musk a "milkshake duck" in press.
RoseCherry64 (
talk)
08:26, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - per Fuzhead and Northamerica1000.-- Jorm ( talk) 15:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
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