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The result was keep. Geschichte ( talk) 19:00, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Military Ordinariate of Lithuania
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Minor catholic organization serving the Lithuanian military, we currently have no in-depth independent coverage in reliable sources and I have been unable to find any online. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 06:26, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep, it is not an organization but an "administrative" subdivision of the Catholic church. The number of interwiki links is a very good indication that the subject is indeed notable. Renata ( talk) 18:17, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
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Renata3: those links appear to only be due to its inclusion in navboxes, they aren’t actual links from the bodies of those articles. Also a stand alone administrative subdivision is an organization, there is no independence inherent in the definition.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk)
18:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't mean "what links here" but 9 articles in other language Wikipedias.
Renata (
talk)
18:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- You mean the cut and pasted version of this article which use the same self-published or non-independent sources? If you can pull good coverage from those articles it would save us a lot of time. Note that the ubiquitously used Catholic-Hierarchy.org is a non-reliable self published source. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 19:00, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't mean "what links here" but 9 articles in other language Wikipedias.
Renata (
talk)
18:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- @
Renata3: those links appear to only be due to its inclusion in navboxes, they aren’t actual links from the bodies of those articles. Also a stand alone administrative subdivision is an organization, there is no independence inherent in the definition.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk)
18:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete there are no reliable sources giving in depth coverage of this organization. The fact that it is a part of the Catholic Church does not mean it itself is notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:42, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Updated and expanded with plenty of references. Horse Eye's Back and John Pack Lambert, please consider withdrawing your !votes. Renata ( talk) 02:10, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Renata3! You’ve done an absolutely fabulous job of cobbling together sources in multiple languages to get it just over the WP:GNG bar! That is truly some impressive work and I no longer see a notability objection here. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 16:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. A branch of a national military and effectively a diocese of a major religious denomination. These are both generally considered to be notable. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 13:43, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 13:44, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep as per WP:HEY because since nomination the article has been significantly improved using reliable sources coverage that shows a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk) 00:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Geschichte ( talk) 19:00, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Military Ordinariate of Lithuania
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Minor catholic organization serving the Lithuanian military, we currently have no in-depth independent coverage in reliable sources and I have been unable to find any online. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 06:26, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2021 June 23. — cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 06:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:13, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lithuania-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:13, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, it is not an organization but an "administrative" subdivision of the Catholic church. The number of interwiki links is a very good indication that the subject is indeed notable. Renata ( talk) 18:17, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- @
Renata3: those links appear to only be due to its inclusion in navboxes, they aren’t actual links from the bodies of those articles. Also a stand alone administrative subdivision is an organization, there is no independence inherent in the definition.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk)
18:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't mean "what links here" but 9 articles in other language Wikipedias.
Renata (
talk)
18:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- You mean the cut and pasted version of this article which use the same self-published or non-independent sources? If you can pull good coverage from those articles it would save us a lot of time. Note that the ubiquitously used Catholic-Hierarchy.org is a non-reliable self published source. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 19:00, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't mean "what links here" but 9 articles in other language Wikipedias.
Renata (
talk)
18:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- @
Renata3: those links appear to only be due to its inclusion in navboxes, they aren’t actual links from the bodies of those articles. Also a stand alone administrative subdivision is an organization, there is no independence inherent in the definition.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk)
18:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete there are no reliable sources giving in depth coverage of this organization. The fact that it is a part of the Catholic Church does not mean it itself is notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:42, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Updated and expanded with plenty of references. Horse Eye's Back and John Pack Lambert, please consider withdrawing your !votes. Renata ( talk) 02:10, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Renata3! You’ve done an absolutely fabulous job of cobbling together sources in multiple languages to get it just over the WP:GNG bar! That is truly some impressive work and I no longer see a notability objection here. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 16:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. A branch of a national military and effectively a diocese of a major religious denomination. These are both generally considered to be notable. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 13:43, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 13:44, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep as per WP:HEY because since nomination the article has been significantly improved using reliable sources coverage that shows a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk) 00:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.