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The result was no consensus. There are assertions of notability and non-notability, but nobody is discussing the sources. Sigh. Sandstein 18:48, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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I had already nominated Mile 17 for AfD without realising there's also a Mile 16 article. Please God there aren't another 15 of these. Fails WP:GNG; WP:GEOLAND, utterly without note. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 07:33, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Cameroon. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 07:33, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Does this jibe with: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolifamba? Djflem ( talk) 18:02, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep satifies GNG and
renamemove Bolifamba. Djflem ( talk) 19:40, 25 July 2022 (UTC) - Comment If there is a notable place called Bolifamba, then there should be an article about Bolifamba. But taking a non-notable place (Mile 16) and adding information to that article about Bolifamba to argue that Mile 16 should be kept as Bolifamba is a little like adding information about Christmas Island into this article and then suggesting it be kept as Christmas Island. This deletion discussion relates to whether Mile 16 is notable or not and therefore deserving of an article. Not Bolifamba, The Chesapeake Marimba Orchestra or Belly Dancing in Casablanca. Or am I just reading this all wrong? Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 04:08, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- MOVE (rename) can be appropriate: Issues to be addressed by changing the page title (and perhaps then expanding or improving its content). This can happen at AFD especially, if the article could be suitable for Wikipedia, but is created under an inappropriate title, and was nominated for deletion, but consensus agrees it is fixable if the title is changed. Depends on the due diligence (or lack thereof) done in research BEFORE making the nomination and subsequent investigation of the information/RS currently available online added to the article since. The Christmas Island spin demonstrates a rather disingenous distraction & lack of willingness to address that. What has your research found? (Generally about the history, land use, and placenaming in Cameroon and specifically about this place to contribute to the improvement the encyclopedia?) Djflem ( talk) 21:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 09:06, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 11:49, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep and move to Bolifamba. There is clearly some a populated, legally recognized place being described in the article. That is enough for GEOLAND. It needs a copyedit for clarity, but deletion is not cleanup. House Blaster talk 00:56, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can those wishing to rename provide evidence of the notability of Bolifamba?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 02:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)- If you are wish to join the discussion with your question, please do. (And review the sources). Can you remove the relist and make you comment in the appropriate way or close the AfD in the appropriate way? Thank you. Djflem ( talk) 11:34, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Addendum: see above Keep: satisfies GNG based on references. Djflem ( talk) 20:54, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was no consensus. There are assertions of notability and non-notability, but nobody is discussing the sources. Sigh. Sandstein 18:48, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Mile 16 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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I had already nominated Mile 17 for AfD without realising there's also a Mile 16 article. Please God there aren't another 15 of these. Fails WP:GNG; WP:GEOLAND, utterly without note. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 07:33, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Cameroon. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 07:33, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Does this jibe with: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolifamba? Djflem ( talk) 18:02, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep satifies GNG and
renamemove Bolifamba. Djflem ( talk) 19:40, 25 July 2022 (UTC) - Comment If there is a notable place called Bolifamba, then there should be an article about Bolifamba. But taking a non-notable place (Mile 16) and adding information to that article about Bolifamba to argue that Mile 16 should be kept as Bolifamba is a little like adding information about Christmas Island into this article and then suggesting it be kept as Christmas Island. This deletion discussion relates to whether Mile 16 is notable or not and therefore deserving of an article. Not Bolifamba, The Chesapeake Marimba Orchestra or Belly Dancing in Casablanca. Or am I just reading this all wrong? Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 04:08, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- MOVE (rename) can be appropriate: Issues to be addressed by changing the page title (and perhaps then expanding or improving its content). This can happen at AFD especially, if the article could be suitable for Wikipedia, but is created under an inappropriate title, and was nominated for deletion, but consensus agrees it is fixable if the title is changed. Depends on the due diligence (or lack thereof) done in research BEFORE making the nomination and subsequent investigation of the information/RS currently available online added to the article since. The Christmas Island spin demonstrates a rather disingenous distraction & lack of willingness to address that. What has your research found? (Generally about the history, land use, and placenaming in Cameroon and specifically about this place to contribute to the improvement the encyclopedia?) Djflem ( talk) 21:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 09:06, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 11:49, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep and move to Bolifamba. There is clearly some a populated, legally recognized place being described in the article. That is enough for GEOLAND. It needs a copyedit for clarity, but deletion is not cleanup. House Blaster talk 00:56, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can those wishing to rename provide evidence of the notability of Bolifamba?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 02:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)- If you are wish to join the discussion with your question, please do. (And review the sources). Can you remove the relist and make you comment in the appropriate way or close the AfD in the appropriate way? Thank you. Djflem ( talk) 11:34, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Addendum: see above Keep: satisfies GNG based on references. Djflem ( talk) 20:54, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.