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The result was delete. A Train talk 06:43, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
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fails WP:NACTOR apart from Imdb the 2 sources don't mention the subject. Fails WP:GNG Domdeparis ( talk) 21:58, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- @ Domdeparis: I've moved this from the bottom of the previous discussion to its own new page. ansh 666 23:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks it seems that the curation toolbar doesn't do that automatically like twinkle. Domdeparis ( talk) 23:16, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. The two articles in question were a reference to his episode. One was a list of the best episodes of each season, in which Michael's episode was ranked as the best. There was no need for a name mention, as this was a ranking. The other was about the live action acting, so although Michael's name was not mentioned, it is relevant information as to how the the live action was played out and received by the reviewer. These are both relevant information to Michael's involvement on the show, as the live action acting was the focal point of the episode. Fans are curious to know about it. In addition to South Park, Michael has appeared in other well known network television. This is mentioned in his credits. South Park is just what he is most known for since it is such a prominent part of our culture, and using live action actors was such a novelty for the show. This episode still reruns on Comedy Central, and it is available on streaming services such as Hulu, so it is currently being watched. South Park fans have a strong curiosity as to who the live action actors are. In addition, more sources have been added to his page. The Wikipedia article on the list of South Park guest stars mentions him as well as one of his co-stars of the episode Brandon Hardesty List_of_South_Park_guest_stars#Season_16
- For a page to pass the general notability guidelines there has to be multiple independent sources that have in depth coverage of the subject. So yes the sources do have to more than just mention his name but talk about him in depth. Domdeparis ( talk) 06:11, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Got it. More sources have been added. Also, this case is unique as Michael is so tied to the show/the part of Stan Marsh because of its magnitude. South Park is a major part of pop culture, and this page has already been live for a while. Why delete it now? Especially when this episode still gets attention due to it being one of the most distinctive because of the parts Michael and the other live action actors played. When fans search for information on the episode, they should have a right to find out more about the actors, no? Additionally, keeping the article will give other interested people the chance to add and contribute. Without an article, they will not be able to interact or engage with Michael's Wikipedia page. Also, everything on the existing page is true, verified, and cited. Why take away facts and researched information from people? Especially from an actor for a show with such a large following and fan base. Other actors from the same episode have live Wikipedia pages. Seems unfair to delete information on some actors from the show but not others.
- Delete - no indication of notability per WP:RS. Actor's film bio suggests that with upcoming film this may be WP:TOOSOON. Also may have to consider creator per WP:SPA. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:20, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 14:32, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947( c ) ( m) 04:02, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per NACTOR and GNG. Sparse TV and film credits are way too weak. Clarityfiend ( talk) 09:12, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Aye. per NACTOR and GNG. Deathlibrarian ( talk) 11:39, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. A Train talk 06:43, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- Michael Zazarino ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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fails WP:NACTOR apart from Imdb the 2 sources don't mention the subject. Fails WP:GNG Domdeparis ( talk) 21:58, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- @ Domdeparis: I've moved this from the bottom of the previous discussion to its own new page. ansh 666 23:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks it seems that the curation toolbar doesn't do that automatically like twinkle. Domdeparis ( talk) 23:16, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. The two articles in question were a reference to his episode. One was a list of the best episodes of each season, in which Michael's episode was ranked as the best. There was no need for a name mention, as this was a ranking. The other was about the live action acting, so although Michael's name was not mentioned, it is relevant information as to how the the live action was played out and received by the reviewer. These are both relevant information to Michael's involvement on the show, as the live action acting was the focal point of the episode. Fans are curious to know about it. In addition to South Park, Michael has appeared in other well known network television. This is mentioned in his credits. South Park is just what he is most known for since it is such a prominent part of our culture, and using live action actors was such a novelty for the show. This episode still reruns on Comedy Central, and it is available on streaming services such as Hulu, so it is currently being watched. South Park fans have a strong curiosity as to who the live action actors are. In addition, more sources have been added to his page. The Wikipedia article on the list of South Park guest stars mentions him as well as one of his co-stars of the episode Brandon Hardesty List_of_South_Park_guest_stars#Season_16
- For a page to pass the general notability guidelines there has to be multiple independent sources that have in depth coverage of the subject. So yes the sources do have to more than just mention his name but talk about him in depth. Domdeparis ( talk) 06:11, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Got it. More sources have been added. Also, this case is unique as Michael is so tied to the show/the part of Stan Marsh because of its magnitude. South Park is a major part of pop culture, and this page has already been live for a while. Why delete it now? Especially when this episode still gets attention due to it being one of the most distinctive because of the parts Michael and the other live action actors played. When fans search for information on the episode, they should have a right to find out more about the actors, no? Additionally, keeping the article will give other interested people the chance to add and contribute. Without an article, they will not be able to interact or engage with Michael's Wikipedia page. Also, everything on the existing page is true, verified, and cited. Why take away facts and researched information from people? Especially from an actor for a show with such a large following and fan base. Other actors from the same episode have live Wikipedia pages. Seems unfair to delete information on some actors from the show but not others.
- Delete - no indication of notability per WP:RS. Actor's film bio suggests that with upcoming film this may be WP:TOOSOON. Also may have to consider creator per WP:SPA. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:20, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 14:32, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947( c ) ( m) 04:02, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per NACTOR and GNG. Sparse TV and film credits are way too weak. Clarityfiend ( talk) 09:12, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Aye. per NACTOR and GNG. Deathlibrarian ( talk) 11:39, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.