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The result was draftify to Draft:Mian Banda. ‑Scottywong | [communicate] || 03:49, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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This page does not meet GNG, which it must as a populated place without legal recognition. If anything it should be merged with Timergara, but there isn't a whole lot to merge. Trevey-On-Sea ( talk) 21:26, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 21:42, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
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- What makes the nominator think that this village has no legal recognition? A click on the word "books" above shows that it is recognised by censuses.
Phil Bridger (
talk)
14:59, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Census tracts are not usually considered notable
Trevey-On-Sea (
talk)
05:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- A village is not a census tract. Phil Bridger ( talk) 07:50, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Census tracts are not usually considered notable
Trevey-On-Sea (
talk)
05:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep per WP:GEOLAND. Terrible excuse for an article, but does appear to be a recognised village. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 09:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- leaning delete There is certainly a Mian Banda in Pakistan, but I'm not the least convinced that it's anything like the place being talked about in this article. One set of references implies that it is on a substantial river; a news report recounts an address given at a seminary there with a name drop implying that everyone in Pakistan knows where it is. Meanwhile I get a clickbait mapper which locates it at a cluster of a 3-4 houses wedged at the end of a valley, clearly not consonant with the textual accounts. If someone could actually read the 1999 census it would help a good deal, but at the moment, given the sourcing and inconsistencies, I just cannot believe the text that we have now, and would suggest that starting over would be better than trying to work with what's there now. Mangoe ( talk) 14:26, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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- This appears to be a very poor latinization of a Pakistani language word. I can't find anything
around Timegara that resembles this name so I'm
leaning towards deletewithout prejudice for recreation if this turns out to be a legitimate population center. Oakshade ( talk) 21:42, 14 September 2020 (UTC) Changed to neutral based on Timothy's research below. If we could determine which population center this is for certain, then I'd say keep. Oakshade ( talk) 02:27, 24 September 2020 (UTC) KeepDraftify (changed vote, see below): I found a census that records two places with this name in LOWER DIR DISTRICT here)) ). I'm not sure which one it is, I think its the one with 2564 population, (the other has 133 people) I think this accounts for Mangoe discovery above. But whichever it is, it is a populated legally recognized place and appears to meet GEOLAND // Timothy :: talk 01:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Changed my vote to Draftify. Mackensen is right, if we're not sure what place it's referring to, then its not ready for mainspace. BD2412 I think has the right compromise, if it can't be developed, it will be deleted, but it will have a chance to develop if possible. // Timothy :: talk 02:02, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete this version of the article because it utterly fails Wikipedia:Verifiability in its current form. The topic is notable, but per TimothyBlue ( talk · contribs) it's not clear what place our article is about. Mackensen (talk) 00:58, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Move to draft, pending development of sources specifically indicating which entity by the name "Mian Banda" this is, and what its characteristics are. BD2412 T 01:13, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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The result was draftify to Draft:Mian Banda. ‑Scottywong | [communicate] || 03:49, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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This page does not meet GNG, which it must as a populated place without legal recognition. If anything it should be merged with Timergara, but there isn't a whole lot to merge. Trevey-On-Sea ( talk) 21:26, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 21:42, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 12:46, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- What makes the nominator think that this village has no legal recognition? A click on the word "books" above shows that it is recognised by censuses.
Phil Bridger (
talk)
14:59, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Census tracts are not usually considered notable
Trevey-On-Sea (
talk)
05:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- A village is not a census tract. Phil Bridger ( talk) 07:50, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Census tracts are not usually considered notable
Trevey-On-Sea (
talk)
05:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 08:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 08:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:GEOLAND. Terrible excuse for an article, but does appear to be a recognised village. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 09:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- leaning delete There is certainly a Mian Banda in Pakistan, but I'm not the least convinced that it's anything like the place being talked about in this article. One set of references implies that it is on a substantial river; a news report recounts an address given at a seminary there with a name drop implying that everyone in Pakistan knows where it is. Meanwhile I get a clickbait mapper which locates it at a cluster of a 3-4 houses wedged at the end of a valley, clearly not consonant with the textual accounts. If someone could actually read the 1999 census it would help a good deal, but at the moment, given the sourcing and inconsistencies, I just cannot believe the text that we have now, and would suggest that starting over would be better than trying to work with what's there now. Mangoe ( talk) 14:26, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 12:48, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 12:48, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- This appears to be a very poor latinization of a Pakistani language word. I can't find anything
around Timegara that resembles this name so I'm
leaning towards deletewithout prejudice for recreation if this turns out to be a legitimate population center. Oakshade ( talk) 21:42, 14 September 2020 (UTC) Changed to neutral based on Timothy's research below. If we could determine which population center this is for certain, then I'd say keep. Oakshade ( talk) 02:27, 24 September 2020 (UTC) KeepDraftify (changed vote, see below): I found a census that records two places with this name in LOWER DIR DISTRICT here)) ). I'm not sure which one it is, I think its the one with 2564 population, (the other has 133 people) I think this accounts for Mangoe discovery above. But whichever it is, it is a populated legally recognized place and appears to meet GEOLAND // Timothy :: talk 01:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Changed my vote to Draftify. Mackensen is right, if we're not sure what place it's referring to, then its not ready for mainspace. BD2412 I think has the right compromise, if it can't be developed, it will be deleted, but it will have a chance to develop if possible. // Timothy :: talk 02:02, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete this version of the article because it utterly fails Wikipedia:Verifiability in its current form. The topic is notable, but per TimothyBlue ( talk · contribs) it's not clear what place our article is about. Mackensen (talk) 00:58, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Move to draft, pending development of sources specifically indicating which entity by the name "Mian Banda" this is, and what its characteristics are. BD2412 T 01:13, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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