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The result was no consensus. ( non-admin closure) NorthAmerica 1000 09:26, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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Nothing but passing mention in articles about the series he created. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG John from Idegon ( talk) 22:07, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
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Delete I wasn't able to find coverage that reaches WP:GNG either. The person involved in life extension and calorie restriction of the same name seems to have a bit more coverage (at least on Highbeam), but doesn't appear to be the same person. -- j⚛e decker talk 14:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)(See below.)- Strong keep. First of all, Meredith is female. Secondly, she isn't an actress, she's a writer and producer, so WP:FILMMAKER/ WP:CREATIVE would apply (not WP:NACTOR as suggested above, unless she acted in something that I can't find). On that basis, Averill easily meets those requirements. She created Star-Crossed, a TV series on The CW. You can see on that show's page how often it's been referenced and reviewed, which meets the third criteria. I think she'd be notable on that basis alone, but she's also produced for The Good Wife and written for a number of other major American television shows, and a quick google search shows a number of interviews in various publications. mikeman67 ( talk) 20:48, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment Please show some of these references. The purpose of these discussions is to review the evidence as to wheather an article should be here or not. Also, which section of WP:FILMMAKER are you proposing she meets. John from Idegon ( talk) 17:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect to Star-Crossed. She hasn't done enough to satisfy FILMMAKER or CREATIVE. Other than a few interviews and announcements, she hasn't gotten any press coverage. Clarityfiend ( talk) 22:24, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. She meets criteria 3: "The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." A television show on The CW is pretty clearly a well-known work, I would think. And it has been the subject of multiple independent periodical articles, as you can see on Star-Crossed's references section. Other articles that mention her: [1] [2]. That was just after a quick search. But regardless, I think she pretty clearly meets FILMMAKER. mikeman67 ( talk) 18:53, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- Moving from delete to Meh. I still don't see two articles that talk about her as more than a mention of her position as creator of a single series, so I'm still not sure there's enough for WP:GNG, but there is more out there than I originally found. -- j⚛e decker talk 20:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Keep this nice article about a person who is a Television program creator (currently a redlink). Relatedly, I'd appreciate getting that established from this draft at AFC into a bona fide article in Wikipedia. I am told at AFC that the term is a "neologism"!!!, as if it is not a well-defined term. Anyhow, I'll add Meredith Averill to the list of credited creators included in the AFC draft. -- do ncr am 03:03, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. ( non-admin closure) NorthAmerica 1000 09:26, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
- Meredith Averill ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Nothing but passing mention in articles about the series he created. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG John from Idegon ( talk) 22:07, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
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Delete I wasn't able to find coverage that reaches WP:GNG either. The person involved in life extension and calorie restriction of the same name seems to have a bit more coverage (at least on Highbeam), but doesn't appear to be the same person. -- j⚛e decker talk 14:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)(See below.)- Strong keep. First of all, Meredith is female. Secondly, she isn't an actress, she's a writer and producer, so WP:FILMMAKER/ WP:CREATIVE would apply (not WP:NACTOR as suggested above, unless she acted in something that I can't find). On that basis, Averill easily meets those requirements. She created Star-Crossed, a TV series on The CW. You can see on that show's page how often it's been referenced and reviewed, which meets the third criteria. I think she'd be notable on that basis alone, but she's also produced for The Good Wife and written for a number of other major American television shows, and a quick google search shows a number of interviews in various publications. mikeman67 ( talk) 20:48, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, slakr\ talk / 14:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Please show some of these references. The purpose of these discussions is to review the evidence as to wheather an article should be here or not. Also, which section of WP:FILMMAKER are you proposing she meets. John from Idegon ( talk) 17:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect to Star-Crossed. She hasn't done enough to satisfy FILMMAKER or CREATIVE. Other than a few interviews and announcements, she hasn't gotten any press coverage. Clarityfiend ( talk) 22:24, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. She meets criteria 3: "The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." A television show on The CW is pretty clearly a well-known work, I would think. And it has been the subject of multiple independent periodical articles, as you can see on Star-Crossed's references section. Other articles that mention her: [1] [2]. That was just after a quick search. But regardless, I think she pretty clearly meets FILMMAKER. mikeman67 ( talk) 18:53, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- Moving from delete to Meh. I still don't see two articles that talk about her as more than a mention of her position as creator of a single series, so I'm still not sure there's enough for WP:GNG, but there is more out there than I originally found. -- j⚛e decker talk 20:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Keep this nice article about a person who is a Television program creator (currently a redlink). Relatedly, I'd appreciate getting that established from this draft at AFC into a bona fide article in Wikipedia. I am told at AFC that the term is a "neologism"!!!, as if it is not a well-defined term. Anyhow, I'll add Meredith Averill to the list of credited creators included in the AFC draft. -- do ncr am 03:03, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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