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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 23:34, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Melissa Sgambelluri
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Fails WP:NSINGER; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:38, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, Television, and New York. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:38, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: The third link looks like it may have been SIGCOV at the time, but it is a permanent dead link. To stay on the safe side, I think we should assume that article contained significant coverage at the time and keep this article on that basis Jack4576 ( talk) 14:46, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- No we shouldn't. It is WP:BLP. scope_creep Talk 08:35, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- I'd also be open to a redirect to Idol finalists from that year. Jack4576 ( talk) 14:47, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: This already covers WP:SIGCOV, so, this needs more citations. CastJared ( talk) 19:33, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. She doesn't meet GNG or NSINGER and there's no evidence she's notable (even if it were available, I don't think an article about an alum in a school newspaper is strong evidence of notability on its own). I'd have supported a redirect as suggested by Jack, except on closer examination she's not even an American Idol finalist; she's not mentioned on
American Idol (season 6) at all. According to her page, she
appeared in the first few minutes of the "Best of the Rest" episode
. Dylnuge ( Talk • Edits) 16:50, 15 May 2023 (UTC) - Redirect and possibly smerge a mention. I created this article when our standards were much lower than today. I was a fan of the show and thought that the "best of the rest" should get their own articles. She appeared in every show of the season, but was eliminated after the Las Vegas episode. She got her 15 minutes of fame, but that's it. There's been no ongoing coverage. At best, this is a case of WP:BLP1E. At worse, the coverage is primarily local and fleeting. I would not oppose a deletion, but a redirect allows it to be re-created if she gets a second shot at fame. Bearian ( talk) 17:21, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete The reference are a plain failure of WP:SIGCOV with ultra local news. Single event. No significant coverage. Doesn't meet any of the criteria as far as I can see. Kudos to @ Bearian: for spotting one of his early prototype articles, recognising it lacked the necessary and promoting it to the Afd queue. Possible redirect if a decent redirect target can be found. scope_creep Talk 08:33, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: BLP, fails GNG and BIO. Source eval:
Comments Source Fails V, nothing about subject 1. James Yeara, Review of Fiddler on the Roof: "Raise High", Metroland, Vol. 27, No. 33, found at Metroland on line. Accessed January 17, 2008. Fails V, 404, subject is alumni, Fails IS 2. ^ Saint Rose Magazine, Summer 2007, p. 18, found at [1][permanent dead link]. PDF. Accessed January 17, 2008. Fails V, 404, subject is alumni, Fails IS 3. ^ Jump up to:a b Kyle Griffin, "Saint Rose alum makes it to Hollywood: She made it to Hollywood, but who is alum Melissa Sgambelluri?", College of Saint Rose CSR Chronicle, February 4, 2007, found at: CSR Chronicle article[permanent dead link]. Accessed January 17, 2008. Fails V, 404, text indicates fan site, archive does to message board 4. ^ Jump up to:a b Idol Fan site Archived 2008-01-05 at archive.today. Accessed January 17, 2008. Fails V, 404, archive also 404 5. ^ Mark McGuire, "For TV extroverts, silence is a harsh reality," Albany Times Union, January 26, 2007, found at Times Union story Archived 2008-06-05 at the Wayback Machine. Accessed January 17, 2008. Fan Page 6. ^ American Idol fan page Archived 2007-07-15 at the Wayback Machine. Accessed January 17, 2008. Interview 7. ^ Mark McGuire, "No Reason to Watch," Albany Times Union, February 15, 2007, found at Mark McGuire's blog for the Albany Times Union Archived 2007-02-20 at the Wayback Machine. Failed V, 404 8. ^ Mark McGuire, "Albany Singer Makes 'Idol' 100 Round: Spa Employee Melissa Sgambelluri Gets Nod From Abdul and Jackson," Albany Times Union, January 26, 2007, found at Red Orbit web site. Accessed January 17, 2008. Not a ref 9. ^ Judge Simon Cowell vetoed Sgambelluri's continued progress in that season of American Idol. Radio station promo, nothing about subject, fails SIGCOV 10. ^ Radio Station FLY 92 party Archived 2005-04-06 at the Wayback Machine. Accessed January 17, 2008. Youtube 11. ^ YouTube. Accessed January 17, 2008. Soundclick site 12. ^ Soundclick.com web site. Accessed January 23, 2008.
- Jack did a complete BEFORE, but was unable to show even a single source from IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. Their comments about still keeping this BLP shows they have no regard for guidelines or even policy in BLP. WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy ( WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines ( WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV). // Timothy :: talk 21:26, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 23:34, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Melissa Sgambelluri
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Fails WP:NSINGER; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:38, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, Television, and New York. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:38, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: The third link looks like it may have been SIGCOV at the time, but it is a permanent dead link. To stay on the safe side, I think we should assume that article contained significant coverage at the time and keep this article on that basis Jack4576 ( talk) 14:46, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- No we shouldn't. It is WP:BLP. scope_creep Talk 08:35, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- I'd also be open to a redirect to Idol finalists from that year. Jack4576 ( talk) 14:47, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: This already covers WP:SIGCOV, so, this needs more citations. CastJared ( talk) 19:33, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. She doesn't meet GNG or NSINGER and there's no evidence she's notable (even if it were available, I don't think an article about an alum in a school newspaper is strong evidence of notability on its own). I'd have supported a redirect as suggested by Jack, except on closer examination she's not even an American Idol finalist; she's not mentioned on
American Idol (season 6) at all. According to her page, she
appeared in the first few minutes of the "Best of the Rest" episode
. Dylnuge ( Talk • Edits) 16:50, 15 May 2023 (UTC) - Redirect and possibly smerge a mention. I created this article when our standards were much lower than today. I was a fan of the show and thought that the "best of the rest" should get their own articles. She appeared in every show of the season, but was eliminated after the Las Vegas episode. She got her 15 minutes of fame, but that's it. There's been no ongoing coverage. At best, this is a case of WP:BLP1E. At worse, the coverage is primarily local and fleeting. I would not oppose a deletion, but a redirect allows it to be re-created if she gets a second shot at fame. Bearian ( talk) 17:21, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete The reference are a plain failure of WP:SIGCOV with ultra local news. Single event. No significant coverage. Doesn't meet any of the criteria as far as I can see. Kudos to @ Bearian: for spotting one of his early prototype articles, recognising it lacked the necessary and promoting it to the Afd queue. Possible redirect if a decent redirect target can be found. scope_creep Talk 08:33, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: BLP, fails GNG and BIO. Source eval:
Comments Source Fails V, nothing about subject 1. James Yeara, Review of Fiddler on the Roof: "Raise High", Metroland, Vol. 27, No. 33, found at Metroland on line. Accessed January 17, 2008. Fails V, 404, subject is alumni, Fails IS 2. ^ Saint Rose Magazine, Summer 2007, p. 18, found at [1][permanent dead link]. PDF. Accessed January 17, 2008. Fails V, 404, subject is alumni, Fails IS 3. ^ Jump up to:a b Kyle Griffin, "Saint Rose alum makes it to Hollywood: She made it to Hollywood, but who is alum Melissa Sgambelluri?", College of Saint Rose CSR Chronicle, February 4, 2007, found at: CSR Chronicle article[permanent dead link]. Accessed January 17, 2008. Fails V, 404, text indicates fan site, archive does to message board 4. ^ Jump up to:a b Idol Fan site Archived 2008-01-05 at archive.today. Accessed January 17, 2008. Fails V, 404, archive also 404 5. ^ Mark McGuire, "For TV extroverts, silence is a harsh reality," Albany Times Union, January 26, 2007, found at Times Union story Archived 2008-06-05 at the Wayback Machine. Accessed January 17, 2008. Fan Page 6. ^ American Idol fan page Archived 2007-07-15 at the Wayback Machine. Accessed January 17, 2008. Interview 7. ^ Mark McGuire, "No Reason to Watch," Albany Times Union, February 15, 2007, found at Mark McGuire's blog for the Albany Times Union Archived 2007-02-20 at the Wayback Machine. Failed V, 404 8. ^ Mark McGuire, "Albany Singer Makes 'Idol' 100 Round: Spa Employee Melissa Sgambelluri Gets Nod From Abdul and Jackson," Albany Times Union, January 26, 2007, found at Red Orbit web site. Accessed January 17, 2008. Not a ref 9. ^ Judge Simon Cowell vetoed Sgambelluri's continued progress in that season of American Idol. Radio station promo, nothing about subject, fails SIGCOV 10. ^ Radio Station FLY 92 party Archived 2005-04-06 at the Wayback Machine. Accessed January 17, 2008. Youtube 11. ^ YouTube. Accessed January 17, 2008. Soundclick site 12. ^ Soundclick.com web site. Accessed January 23, 2008.
- Jack did a complete BEFORE, but was unable to show even a single source from IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. Their comments about still keeping this BLP shows they have no regard for guidelines or even policy in BLP. WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy ( WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines ( WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV). // Timothy :: talk 21:26, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
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