The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus for Keep through several different notability routes suggested, but primarily WP:CREATIVE. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear ( talk) 00:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC) reply

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No sources which looks tame, but the article is nowhere passing the WP:BLP and WP:NFILM due to being all minor since of her career beginning. Sheldybett ( talk) 15:18, 8 March 2019 (UTC) reply

• Comment - Bit fast don't you reckon? The article only got made an hour ago, by a new editor, google shows there are Japanese language sources about her, plus English youtube interviews... Spacepine ( talk) 16:17, 8 March 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep This is a nomination that, frankly, raises WP:CIR questions about language ability. "No sources which looks tane" or "due to being all minor since of her career beginning" seem to be Google Translate output. In any event, the fact that she created a film with a blue link ( Herb and Dorothy) is one clue that she's notable. Another is that a Japanese wikipedia article exists, with sources. Another is that a simple search finds that her film "Whale of a Tale" has received reviews in The New York Times [1], Washington Post [2], San Francisco Chronicle, [3], The Guardian [4], etc. So, in guideline terms, she "created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work" that has been the primary subject "of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews", thereby passing WP:CREATIVE#3. We all contribute how we can, but this nomination is a waste of editor time and attention. Bakazaka ( talk) 16:32, 8 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU ^(T) 17:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC) reply

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• Keep per Bakazaka. Dekimasu よ! 17:48, 8 March 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep as per the coverage in reliable sources identified in this discussion, passes WP:Creative and deserves to be kept in the encyclopedia Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:55, 8 March 2019 (UTC) reply
• Speedy Keep - Article is now sourced. Spacepine ( talk) 01:22, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply
• Speedy Keep good sources and clear notability. -- Theredproject ( talk) 10:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply
• Weak keep This article does not in fact currently contain any reliably sourced biographical information about the subject herself (as opposed to two of her films), since the Gendai piece is an interview, and therefore a primary source, and therefore only useful for notability purposes if we start down the slippery slope of speculating on whether her being notable enough to have been interviewed by this or that specific source. But it does indeed appear to be the opinion of the community that we can have biographical articles on artists whose works have been profiled in a large number of reliable sources, at least as long as they are white men, so we might as well allow this one on a Japanese woman. I do think some of the topic-specific notability criteria, including WP:CREATIVE as cited above, are at odds with WP:NOTINHERITED, but apparently very few others do, so why bother fighting it? That being said, the above two "speedy keep" !votes should be reprimanded for the either (a) making a strawman argument that anyone was claiming the article should be deleted because it didn't happen to cite sources at one time, or (b) saying that notability is "clear" despite the fact that we cannot apparently write anything about her biography without relying on primary sources. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 09:06, 10 March 2019 (UTC) reply

That's fair, the !vote was more a reaction to the poor judgement of the nominator than the merits of the article in question. "Speedy" was uncalled for. Changed to keep.

Additionally, I see this as the opposite of what WP:NOTINHERITED is design to prevent. If someone is not notable through her actions and creations, then there would be very few Wikipedia articles for creatives. Discretion is obviously required, but there appear to be enough sources to justify the articles inclusion. -- Spacepine ( talk) 03:00, 12 March 2019 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.