The result was Keep. Bduke ( talk) 08:15, 4 January 2008 (UTC) reply
Navel gazing. While many Wikipedians (especially the older ones) have heard of MeatballWiki, it has no notability in the outside world. Although the article has existed since 2001 (created by an editor who described it as a " shameless plug to fill in dangling link"), it has virtually no secondary sources. All the inlined citations link to wikis and other forms of content that fail WP:RS. There are only two mentions of MeatballWiki in mainstream media, both of which are listed in external links. They are as follows:
That's it. Two sentences in reliable sources for a site that has existed for over half a decade. We need to hold ourselves to the same guidelines we apply to garage bands. MeatballWiki fails our web notability guidelines: specifically, "content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself" (No), "the website or content has won a well-known and independent award from either a publication or organization" (No), and "The content is distributed via a medium which is both respected and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster" (No).
Frankly, some of the arguments in the last AFD were nothing short of embarrassing. One user said, "This article has been on Wikipedia for over 4 years, and Meta often refers to Meatball". Another said that "it meets my "heard of this thing outside of Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects a few times" gut feeling criterion". These should have been disregarded because they do not accord with Wikipedia deletion policy. If someone wants a Wikipedia: namespace or Meta article on meatball, that's fine — but this is not an encyclopedia article. *** Crotalus *** 06:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC) reply
The result was Keep. Bduke ( talk) 08:15, 4 January 2008 (UTC) reply
Navel gazing. While many Wikipedians (especially the older ones) have heard of MeatballWiki, it has no notability in the outside world. Although the article has existed since 2001 (created by an editor who described it as a " shameless plug to fill in dangling link"), it has virtually no secondary sources. All the inlined citations link to wikis and other forms of content that fail WP:RS. There are only two mentions of MeatballWiki in mainstream media, both of which are listed in external links. They are as follows:
That's it. Two sentences in reliable sources for a site that has existed for over half a decade. We need to hold ourselves to the same guidelines we apply to garage bands. MeatballWiki fails our web notability guidelines: specifically, "content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself" (No), "the website or content has won a well-known and independent award from either a publication or organization" (No), and "The content is distributed via a medium which is both respected and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster" (No).
Frankly, some of the arguments in the last AFD were nothing short of embarrassing. One user said, "This article has been on Wikipedia for over 4 years, and Meta often refers to Meatball". Another said that "it meets my "heard of this thing outside of Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects a few times" gut feeling criterion". These should have been disregarded because they do not accord with Wikipedia deletion policy. If someone wants a Wikipedia: namespace or Meta article on meatball, that's fine — but this is not an encyclopedia article. *** Crotalus *** 06:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC) reply