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The result was merge to Brookes Shawnigan Lake. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 13:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Maxwell International School
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Fails WP:ORG, WP:NHS - No significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Serv181920 ( talk) 06:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Serv181920 ( talk) 06:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete one local report on how a school is about to close is not enough to show notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 15:04, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Merge after paring down into History section of Brookes Shawnigan Lake. Orville talk 06:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- Strong keep notable, one of the major Baha'i schools in Canada with well-documented history, Google gives you 1,570 results on "maxwell international school" Bahai Tarikhejtemai ( talk) 18:17, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- That is not sufficient. Check WP:GNUM Serv181920 ( talk) 17:41, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Easy Keep - It is also covered in A Basic Baha'i Chronology by Glenn Cameron [1], though not in much detail. There is a 4-page article in Baha'i News November 1988 [2]. As for references outside of Baha'i sources, there are numerous articles covering it by independent newspapers. It has gone by "Maxwell International Baha'i School", "Maxwell Baha'i School", and "Maxwell International School". Searcing the right terms, I quickly came up with articles where the school and its students are the main subject, not trivial mentions: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], and there are many more. In 1998 it was independently ranked 61 out of 256 high schools in British Columbia [12]. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 19:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not able to verify the sources as they are behind the paywall. Cuñado and Tarikhejtemai are Baha'i editors, may be that's the reason they want to keep it. I could not find anything significant about this school except in the Baha'i published sources.
Serv181920 (
talk)
17:36, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- WP:Paywall: "Do not reject reliable sources just because they are difficult or costly to access." Also, you are a single-issue anti-Baha'i editor, if we're talking about biases. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 18:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not able to verify the sources as they are behind the paywall. Cuñado and Tarikhejtemai are Baha'i editors, may be that's the reason they want to keep it. I could not find anything significant about this school except in the Baha'i published sources.
Serv181920 (
talk)
17:36, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Merge only sourced content into Brookes Shawnigan Lake oer Orville. // Timothy :: t | c | a 15:08, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- I think merge is appropriate. Are there any guidelines or precedents for schools that have closed? Cuñado ☼ - Talk 17:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete has no sources and seems to be against WP:NRSNVNA and WP:NOR Illuminator123 ( talk) 16:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- I listed 12 sources above.
Cuñado ☼ -
Talk
17:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- You have referred to 12 mentions in newspaper articles. Just because a school has been mentioned in a newspaper it doesn't make it notable. In fact newspapers frequently publish articles on local schools and their activities and achievements. Notability aside the whole article has no sources and
WP:NRSNVNA and
WP:NOR
Illuminator123 (
talk) — Preceding
undated comment added
18:08, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Neither of those apply. WP:ORG does apply, and says: "the organization has attracted the notice of reliable sources unrelated to the organization". It attracted the attention of many newspapers and several Baha'i publications. If you're so passionate about notability guidelines, go put an AFD on Homer High School (Louisiana). Cuñado ☼ - Talk 07:12, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- You have referred to 12 mentions in newspaper articles. Just because a school has been mentioned in a newspaper it doesn't make it notable. In fact newspapers frequently publish articles on local schools and their activities and achievements. Notability aside the whole article has no sources and
WP:NRSNVNA and
WP:NOR
Illuminator123 (
talk) — Preceding
undated comment added
18:08, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- I listed 12 sources above.
Cuñado ☼ -
Talk
17:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus is building towards Merge but could do with further input.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 14:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Consensus is building towards Merge but could do with further input.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 14:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Merge as per Orville and Timothy - seeing as the school has been closed for a while it makes sense to integrate sourced content into a "History" section of the school that currently occupies the same grounds. Mention could also be added to an article on the Bahá'í Faith in Canada, since it would be relevant to such an article. dragfyre_ ʞןɐʇ c 09:14, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was merge to Brookes Shawnigan Lake. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 13:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Maxwell International School
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Fails WP:ORG, WP:NHS - No significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Serv181920 ( talk) 06:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Serv181920 ( talk) 06:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 09:15, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 09:15, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete one local report on how a school is about to close is not enough to show notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 15:04, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Merge after paring down into History section of Brookes Shawnigan Lake. Orville talk 06:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- Strong keep notable, one of the major Baha'i schools in Canada with well-documented history, Google gives you 1,570 results on "maxwell international school" Bahai Tarikhejtemai ( talk) 18:17, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- That is not sufficient. Check WP:GNUM Serv181920 ( talk) 17:41, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Easy Keep - It is also covered in A Basic Baha'i Chronology by Glenn Cameron [1], though not in much detail. There is a 4-page article in Baha'i News November 1988 [2]. As for references outside of Baha'i sources, there are numerous articles covering it by independent newspapers. It has gone by "Maxwell International Baha'i School", "Maxwell Baha'i School", and "Maxwell International School". Searcing the right terms, I quickly came up with articles where the school and its students are the main subject, not trivial mentions: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], and there are many more. In 1998 it was independently ranked 61 out of 256 high schools in British Columbia [12]. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 19:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not able to verify the sources as they are behind the paywall. Cuñado and Tarikhejtemai are Baha'i editors, may be that's the reason they want to keep it. I could not find anything significant about this school except in the Baha'i published sources.
Serv181920 (
talk)
17:36, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- WP:Paywall: "Do not reject reliable sources just because they are difficult or costly to access." Also, you are a single-issue anti-Baha'i editor, if we're talking about biases. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 18:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not able to verify the sources as they are behind the paywall. Cuñado and Tarikhejtemai are Baha'i editors, may be that's the reason they want to keep it. I could not find anything significant about this school except in the Baha'i published sources.
Serv181920 (
talk)
17:36, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Merge only sourced content into Brookes Shawnigan Lake oer Orville. // Timothy :: t | c | a 15:08, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- I think merge is appropriate. Are there any guidelines or precedents for schools that have closed? Cuñado ☼ - Talk 17:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete has no sources and seems to be against WP:NRSNVNA and WP:NOR Illuminator123 ( talk) 16:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- I listed 12 sources above.
Cuñado ☼ -
Talk
17:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- You have referred to 12 mentions in newspaper articles. Just because a school has been mentioned in a newspaper it doesn't make it notable. In fact newspapers frequently publish articles on local schools and their activities and achievements. Notability aside the whole article has no sources and
WP:NRSNVNA and
WP:NOR
Illuminator123 (
talk) — Preceding
undated comment added
18:08, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Neither of those apply. WP:ORG does apply, and says: "the organization has attracted the notice of reliable sources unrelated to the organization". It attracted the attention of many newspapers and several Baha'i publications. If you're so passionate about notability guidelines, go put an AFD on Homer High School (Louisiana). Cuñado ☼ - Talk 07:12, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- You have referred to 12 mentions in newspaper articles. Just because a school has been mentioned in a newspaper it doesn't make it notable. In fact newspapers frequently publish articles on local schools and their activities and achievements. Notability aside the whole article has no sources and
WP:NRSNVNA and
WP:NOR
Illuminator123 (
talk) — Preceding
undated comment added
18:08, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- I listed 12 sources above.
Cuñado ☼ -
Talk
17:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus is building towards Merge but could do with further input.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 14:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Consensus is building towards Merge but could do with further input.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 14:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Merge as per Orville and Timothy - seeing as the school has been closed for a while it makes sense to integrate sourced content into a "History" section of the school that currently occupies the same grounds. Mention could also be added to an article on the Bahá'í Faith in Canada, since it would be relevant to such an article. dragfyre_ ʞןɐʇ c 09:14, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.