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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) Geschichte ( talk) 20:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Matthew Levitt
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Originally created by some pro-Israeli sock puppet in 2008 that has since been perma-banned? Very sporadic updates since then. Cannot find any independent secondary sources (Washington Institute is main source of all the info, his employer, and is also a pro-Israeli thinktank?), and this reads more like some kinda WP:RESUME than anything else. I cannot think of any good way to salvage this without useful secondary and independent sources. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 22:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 May 27. — cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 23:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Authors, Terrorism, Massachusetts, New York, and Washington, D.C.. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Passes
WP:Prof#c1 on GS cites. Also
WP:Author for books on counter-terrorism.
Xxanthippe (
talk) 00:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC).
Xxanthippe (
talk)
00:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC).
- all the sources saying he is an important figure in counterterrorism are from his own books or the thinktank he is a part of User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 03:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The books alone are not enough but I found and added plenty of reviews (11 for 3 books), giving him a pass of
WP:AUTHOR. I agree that there is also a case for
WP:PROF#C1. The nominator's interjection of politics into the rationale for deletion is also troublesome. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
00:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- thank you for edits and review citations.
- i didnt see matthew levitts citation count actually, kinda agree on wp:prof 1 now that he is notable, so i kinda change to weak keep maybe. not sure about wp:author.
- pointing out the politics is not troubling i think. his page reads very much like a wp:resume and does not indicate that the think tank he works at has been identified by both nytimes and others as both founded by aipac, run with money from aipac donors, and very much proisraeli.
- much of his work reflects this bias (i found his article by seeing folks uncritically cite his work as bedrock truth on wikipedia pushing that muslim brotherhood/hamas had infiltrated many if not most muslim orgs)
- much of it still reads like a wp:resume i think, especially as article takes significant amount of info from the thinktank. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 04:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- also for future help in determining the notability of these types of articles, how did you find such book reviews?
- honestly asking, the first few page of google search when i was looking were all just his own work or the think tank, didnt know where else to search or find other sources and would love new ways to find sources for articles
User:Sawerchessread (
talk)
04:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I found many of them using a JSTOR advanced search with his name as a quoted string, checking the box restricting the search results to reviews. With that as a base, I filled in some more searching Google Scholar for works whose titles included the title of the book. E.g. search string intitle:"Hezbollah: The Global Footprint of Lebanon's Party of God". — David Eppstein ( talk) 07:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, on WP:AUTHOR grounds. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 05:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Convinced by arguments and citation count (didn't see them). Still think the article could use some work. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 05:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) Geschichte ( talk) 20:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Matthew Levitt
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Originally created by some pro-Israeli sock puppet in 2008 that has since been perma-banned? Very sporadic updates since then. Cannot find any independent secondary sources (Washington Institute is main source of all the info, his employer, and is also a pro-Israeli thinktank?), and this reads more like some kinda WP:RESUME than anything else. I cannot think of any good way to salvage this without useful secondary and independent sources. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 22:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 May 27. — cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 23:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Authors, Terrorism, Massachusetts, New York, and Washington, D.C.. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Passes
WP:Prof#c1 on GS cites. Also
WP:Author for books on counter-terrorism.
Xxanthippe (
talk) 00:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC).
Xxanthippe (
talk)
00:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC).
- all the sources saying he is an important figure in counterterrorism are from his own books or the thinktank he is a part of User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 03:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The books alone are not enough but I found and added plenty of reviews (11 for 3 books), giving him a pass of
WP:AUTHOR. I agree that there is also a case for
WP:PROF#C1. The nominator's interjection of politics into the rationale for deletion is also troublesome. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
00:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- thank you for edits and review citations.
- i didnt see matthew levitts citation count actually, kinda agree on wp:prof 1 now that he is notable, so i kinda change to weak keep maybe. not sure about wp:author.
- pointing out the politics is not troubling i think. his page reads very much like a wp:resume and does not indicate that the think tank he works at has been identified by both nytimes and others as both founded by aipac, run with money from aipac donors, and very much proisraeli.
- much of his work reflects this bias (i found his article by seeing folks uncritically cite his work as bedrock truth on wikipedia pushing that muslim brotherhood/hamas had infiltrated many if not most muslim orgs)
- much of it still reads like a wp:resume i think, especially as article takes significant amount of info from the thinktank. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 04:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- also for future help in determining the notability of these types of articles, how did you find such book reviews?
- honestly asking, the first few page of google search when i was looking were all just his own work or the think tank, didnt know where else to search or find other sources and would love new ways to find sources for articles
User:Sawerchessread (
talk)
04:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I found many of them using a JSTOR advanced search with his name as a quoted string, checking the box restricting the search results to reviews. With that as a base, I filled in some more searching Google Scholar for works whose titles included the title of the book. E.g. search string intitle:"Hezbollah: The Global Footprint of Lebanon's Party of God". — David Eppstein ( talk) 07:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, on WP:AUTHOR grounds. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 05:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Convinced by arguments and citation count (didn't see them). Still think the article could use some work. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 05:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.