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The result was delete. Please see this discussion's talk page for further source analysis. Article topics need to be the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources. czar 22:52, 1 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Matthew Kenslow

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In a routine check through my deleted contributions tab today this article popped back up on the scope. In its original form it was biography which was deleted the first time around on copyright violation grounds. This newer version is a more detailed version that, on paper, appears to address the previous concerns for copyright and adds more content, but fails to demonstrate notability and on a read through appears far more interested in promoting its subject than it does in informing the public in an encyclopedic way of the person it is about. I'm listing here to community input. TomStar81 ( Talk) 09:38, 24 September 2022 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Internet, and California. Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:09, 24 September 2022 (UTC) reply

Hi. This is the writer of the article. Please understand that this is my first article which I spent a lot of time in. I believe that the subject is definitely qualified, but I'm SO sorry if I sounded more biographic and promotional instead of encyclopedic, but please understand that the subject should be notable enough. (I'm sorry if I'm not the best at grammar either). In your notes, you said "Find sources...news, newspapers, books..." I'm just going to leave a whole list of links below proving to you credible sources to prove his notability, starting with Newsweek of all places. A person is definitely notable there. And he has appeared in several news, radio, podcasts (actual news stations and not independent ones).

1) https://www.newsweek.com/i-have-autism-aspergers-syndrome-1730468

2) https://medium.com/authority-magazine/unstoppable-how-matthew-kenslow-has-redefined-success-while-navigating-society-with-aspergers-45f484cf3369

3) https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/news/2022/08/05/why-one-man-is-using-his-diagnosis-to-help-others-on-the-spectrum-feel-included?cid=id-app15_m-share_s-web_cmp-app_launch_august2020_c-producer_posts_po-organic

4) https://www.wsaz.com/video/2022/09/19/journey-through-parenthood-asperger-syndrome-awareness/?fbclid=IwAR0vRJ5aWw7q3iLLISHjDyZA66XsL9Ag4psXn6A1bpx7xRvqCBZQ1wDgJBA

5) https://e27.co/how-autism-shaped-my-life-and-what-i-want-people-to-know-20220906/

6) https://thetableread.co.uk/aspergers-and-unstoppable-matthew-kenslow-doesnt-let-labels-limit-him/

7) https://chvnradio.com/articles/aspergers-and-unstoppable-how-matthew-kenslow-is-using-gods-gift-to-succeed

8) https://kost1035.iheart.com/featured/ellen-k/content/2020-04-02-order-matthews-book-juggling-the-issues-living-with-asperger-syndrome/

9) https://motherhood-moment.blogspot.com/2022/07/book-nook-juggling-issues-living-with.html

10) https://360wise.com/aspergers-and-unstoppable-matthew-kenslow-doesnt-let-labels-limit-him/

11) https://the-art-of-autism.com/how-i-got-an-award-winning-book-about-autism-published-at-23/

12) https://lifeasrog.com/juggling-the-issues-living-with-aspergers-syndrome/

13) https://jonimartinsauthor.blogspot.com/2022/03/book-review-juggling-issues-by-matthew.html?spref=tw

14) https://issuu.com/vanguardu/docs/synecdoche_journal_2021_final/s/13249228

15) https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/579852901/asperger-s-and-unstoppable-matthew-kenslow-doesn-t-let-labels-limit-him

16) https://joinouramerica.org/stories/matthew-kenslow/?fbclid=IwAR3x2XqrN-urzVVLpG4uv04rGCJGK2bKdfaPGZUwVVbSgBcyQfFjb9K0kvM

17) https://www.ocregister.com/2015/12/08/photos-video-being-on-the-autism-spectrum-isnt-holding-back-costa-mesa-man/

(and more coming, I'm sure, which I will link here, if you still need more proof than the proof I gave you above).

And for gosh sake, he is the author to a book, so there's a "book" for you.

Thank you.

CCFT Historian ( talk) 13:32, 24 September 2022 (UTC) reply

Hello. I came to Matthew's page to update his Youtube subscriber count and then came here. I don't know a lot about Wikipedia's policies and just skimmed through the relevant guidelines and discussion guidelines and realize how ignorant I am to make a valid argument. I simply ask that you give him time. I see that Matthew is getting more and more in news and articles and not just those that the other user listed above. I personally believe he's notable and I agree with the other user who posted above that Newsweek clearly means you're in the public's interest, but hey I'm not the smartest and there's things you know more than I, but just know that my life and the lives of thousands others around that world have been changed with all his social media posts and TV and radio interviews. Through looking at his posts and googling his name, he's continuing to be published in a lot of articles and in news interviews and if I find some more articles, I'll drop the links in here. Also he did some radio interviews that weren't recorded and uploaded somewhere. I know because Matthew on social media tells of him being on radio and I listened to a couple of them live but the hosts didn't save the interview to listen to it again. What I believe this means is him getting more notable as time goes on. I ask that you keep the article for a while and let himself prove that he'll stay in the public eye greater than ever before.

Robert C 571 ( talk) 01:37, 27 September 2022 (UTC) reply

• I put a rundown of the sources on the talk page. Unfortunately this looks to be someone who has a fan following, but has unfortunately generally been ignored by the sources Wikipedia would consider establishing notability. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 19:32, 27 September 2022 (UTC) reply
• Delete. I tried finding more sourcing, but a look showed that there's just not much out there that would fit Wikipedia's notability guidelines. It's just still WP:TOOSOON for an article. He's really only been covered by two outlets. There are some interviews, but arguing for those to be used towards notability would be extremely difficult at AfD and honestly, would still make for shaky sourcing. The awards and honors he's received are amazing, but not the type of thing that Wikipedia would see as something that would establish notability. It's honestly pretty frustrating because Kenslow is an excellent example of the type of person who should be receiving more coverage than he has, but hasn't. As much as I'd like for him to have an article, Wikipedia isn't meant to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS as far as inequality in media coverage goes. It can take decades for people to gain more widespread attention. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 19:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC) reply

  @reader of the pack, I thank you for your time and I tell you really want what's best for Matthew. I'm trying not to defend the article because it's my first one or because I put in a lot of time, but like what Robert C said, millions of people's lives have been changed and he's just getting started. Plus he's been on stations that were never recorded or given a website to use as a source to prove that he's been on those station. And just two outlets? I gave you a whole list which isn't everything of multiple outlets. Okay you may be right that it's too soon but not for long! I found Matthew on a press release site or whatever so he's starting to get great PR which is why he was in Newsweek. And hey, Newsweek is NOT social media, so how can you say that this is entirely a fan following?? Plus, he's been on multiple news and radio stations, which aren't social media. I'm certain that by the end of this year he'll be all over in more "credible, reliable" sources with sustained coverage. You're right that it's pretty frustrating because as everybody will see, he is encyclopedic material. Again this is only the beginning and more articles, media outlet and coverage to come! Thank you. CCFT Historian ( talk) 23:57, 27 September 2022 (UTC) reply

• I gave an explanation about sourcing on the talk page. If a source is primary (ie, written by Kenslow) then it can't establish notability regardless of where it's posted. Interviews are often considered primary sources are well. It's a widespread enough opinion that I don't recommend using them to establish notability when something is up at AfD. I don't fully agree with the idea that interviews should only be seen as primary sources, as IMHO someone being interviewed implies that the outlet views them as notable (depending on the type and topic of the interview). I can understand the rationale and honestly, they're not the strongest sources to use to argue for notability as a whole. On the few times I've tried using them at AfD it's been to argue that there could be more sourcing out there that doesn't come up easily in a search. That isn't the case here as the notability giving sourcing is pretty slim, however. Honestly, it really does take a while for someone to gain the needed coverage. It's super common for people to be relatively or very well known within their communities but still fail to get the needed coverage. I mean, just look at some of the YT personalities out there - there was a deletion discussion on Dan Avidan even after Game Grumps became notable and Tabitha King was also brought up for deletion at one point. Notability is just that hard to establish. Luckily in both cases we were able to establish notability, but those are two people who you'd think would pass notability guidelines easily but were still questioned. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:31, 29 September 2022 (UTC) reply

• 'Delete per ReaderofthePack. This is possibly a case of WP:TOOSOON and the vast majority of the refs are unreliable (the Newsweek article is a case of self-citing as Kenslow is the author and it appears to be part of an essay-submission program). I also have serious WP:COI concerns regarding the article. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 13:45, 29 September 2022 (UTC) reply

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