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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) | Uncle Milty | talk | 15:03, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Mary Jo Buttafuoco
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WP:BLP1E. Unlike Joey Buttafuoco or Amy Fisher, she had no media appearances after the fact and was quickly forgotten. Merge to one of those two articles or delete. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 08:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
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- Partial merge to Joey Buttafuoco. Since her book has got significant media coverage [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] you could argue she meets WP:WRITER. But I still think that since the book is about her husband, her marriage, and the Amy Fisher affair, and she only wrote it and got it published and got any media coverage because of those factors, it makes sense to merge with her husband's article where the whole thing can be discussed in one. A merge is also justified by the fact that the "Aftermath" section is the same in both her and her husband's articles, so you really just need to merge the section about her book. -- Colapeninsula ( talk) 16:28, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Her book and motivational career have been marginally notable, she has made media appearances on shows such as Howard Stern and The View to promote them. She is mostly notable for the Amy Fisher incident, but perhaps her work in recent years is notable enough to meet the requirements. LM2000 ( talk) 18:02, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:AUTHOR #3 multiple book reviews. In this case WP:BLP1E doesn't apply because at least two of the three conditions are not met. 1. Sources cover her beyond the event, she is a published author and speaker, she has become a public figure over the long term. 2. She is no longer a low profile figure (a requirement of BLP1E). She may have been at the time of the event, but she capitalized on it and consciously chose to become a public figure by publishing books, going on TV, public speaking and so on. She could have chosen to remain private, which BLP1E is designed to protect, but in this case she became a long-term public figure by her own choice to write a book and appear on TV. Low profile figures don't have PR agents. Also the writing of the book didn't just happen automatically, she did it as a separate accomplishment from the initial event, they are not the same thing from a notability standpoint (one is AUTHOR, the other is VICTIM). -- Green Cardamom ( talk) 03:27, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // essay // 12:28, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
- Keep per Green Cardamom. She's notable beyond the obvious single event. There is copious coverage over her post-2000; certainly, there's enough to complete an article. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 23:11, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
- Keep - Notable public figure, per above. Carrite ( talk) 06:45, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) | Uncle Milty | talk | 15:03, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Mary Jo Buttafuoco
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WP:BLP1E. Unlike Joey Buttafuoco or Amy Fisher, she had no media appearances after the fact and was quickly forgotten. Merge to one of those two articles or delete. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 08:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 08:51, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 08:51, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 08:51, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Partial merge to Joey Buttafuoco. Since her book has got significant media coverage [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] you could argue she meets WP:WRITER. But I still think that since the book is about her husband, her marriage, and the Amy Fisher affair, and she only wrote it and got it published and got any media coverage because of those factors, it makes sense to merge with her husband's article where the whole thing can be discussed in one. A merge is also justified by the fact that the "Aftermath" section is the same in both her and her husband's articles, so you really just need to merge the section about her book. -- Colapeninsula ( talk) 16:28, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Her book and motivational career have been marginally notable, she has made media appearances on shows such as Howard Stern and The View to promote them. She is mostly notable for the Amy Fisher incident, but perhaps her work in recent years is notable enough to meet the requirements. LM2000 ( talk) 18:02, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:AUTHOR #3 multiple book reviews. In this case WP:BLP1E doesn't apply because at least two of the three conditions are not met. 1. Sources cover her beyond the event, she is a published author and speaker, she has become a public figure over the long term. 2. She is no longer a low profile figure (a requirement of BLP1E). She may have been at the time of the event, but she capitalized on it and consciously chose to become a public figure by publishing books, going on TV, public speaking and so on. She could have chosen to remain private, which BLP1E is designed to protect, but in this case she became a long-term public figure by her own choice to write a book and appear on TV. Low profile figures don't have PR agents. Also the writing of the book didn't just happen automatically, she did it as a separate accomplishment from the initial event, they are not the same thing from a notability standpoint (one is AUTHOR, the other is VICTIM). -- Green Cardamom ( talk) 03:27, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // essay // 12:28, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
- Keep per Green Cardamom. She's notable beyond the obvious single event. There is copious coverage over her post-2000; certainly, there's enough to complete an article. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 23:11, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
- Keep - Notable public figure, per above. Carrite ( talk) 06:45, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
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