The result was Procedural keep. The nominator did not make a deletion argument, but argued for a merge. This is not the proper venue for a merge discussion, and this argument should have been made using the process at WP:MERGE. While we do sometimes merge articles at AFD per WP:ATD, this is only as an alternative to deletion when a deletion argument has been made. ( non-admin closure) 4meter4 ( talk) 23:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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Most academic sources refer to the "Marxist Mojahedin" as a "Marxist faction" or "Marxist branch" of the Mojahedin that didn't have its own name initially but later named itself Organization of Struggle for the Emancipation of the Working Class (also known as Peykar or Paykar). This article should be merged into Organization of Struggle for the Emancipation of the Working Class per scholarly WP:DUE. Fad Ariff ( talk) 12:27, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
See the academic consensus about this:
1)"Immediately after the revolution, when the Marxist Mojahedin renamed itself Peykar"
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2)"Paykar organization” (Marxist Mujahedin)"
[2]
3)"It might be worth noting that Peykar had its origins within the Mojahedin. It once constituted the Marxist wing of the organization. At one point in the mid-1970s it carried out an internal "coup" in an attempt to transform the organization into a Marxist Leninist organization. The coup included execution of an opponent from the Islamic wing. This action ultimately failed, and the Marxist-Mojahedin were expelled, later forming Peykar."
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4)"The Marxist branch was to name itself as the Paykar Group following the Iranian revolution”
[4]
5)"The Islamic wing of the Mojahedin refused to give up the name, and eventually the Marxist Mojahedin adopted the name Peykar (Struggle)"
[5]
6)"Paykar, the Neo-Marxist splinter group which broke away from the Mojahedin prior to the revolution."
[6]
7"While the remaining primary members of MEK, including Masoud Rajavi, were imprisoned, some of the early members of MEK ... formed a new Marxist organization, later known as Organization of Struggle for the Emancipation of the Working Class or simply Peykar."
[7]
8)"The Marxist offshoot from the Sazman-i Mojahedin-i Khalq-i Iran. From 1975 to 1979, this organization was known as the Marxist Mojahedin. After the revolution, it adopted the title of Sazman-i Paykar dar Rah-i Azad-i Tabaqeh-i Kargar (The Fighting Organisation of the Road to Liberating the Working Class). It is now known simply as Kaykar (Battle)”
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[8]
9)"Converting to Marxism in the mid-1970s, he had led the Mojahedin's Marxist offshoot, which, after the revolution, adopted the name Sazeman-e Paykar dar Rah-e Azadi-ye Tabaqeh-ye Kargar (Combat organization on the road to the emancipation of the working class) - better known as Paykar."
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[9]
10)"In 1976, the Mojaedin split into two opposing sections. A group of Mojahedin denounced hte path of armed struggle and the reference to Islam, and split to set up a secular guerilla organisation by the name of Peykar Khalgh. This split served to strenghen the Islamic identity of the original Mojahedin Khalgh Organisation."
[10]
11)"Marxist-Leninist Mujahedin. Soon after the revolution it acquired a new name: Sazman-e Paykar dar Rah-e Azadi-e Tabaqah-e Kargar (The Combat Organisation on the Road to the Liberation of the Working Class), commonly known as Paykar, Combat"
[11]
12)"It might be worth noting that Peykar had its origins within the Mojahedin. It once constituted the Marxist wing of the organization."
[12]
13)"However, when the imprisoned cadres faithful to the original orientation of the organization were released after the revolution, the Marxist branch dropped the name Mojahedin-Khalq and chose the new name The Fighting Organization on the Road for the Liberation of the Working Class (Peykar dar Rah-e Azadi-e Tabaghey-e Kargar, hereafter Peykar)"
[13]
14)"The Marxist faction staged a coup and purged the non-Marxist elements. In 1978, the Marxist faction renamed itself Peykar and resumed its activities, and the Moslem members recaptured the leadership of the Mojahedin"
[14]
15)"a splinter organization from the People's Mojahedin of Iran (MEK). Peykar was a Marxist-Leninist organisation founded in 1975, and in the post-revolutionary era it moved its activities to Kurdistan"
[15]
16)"This organization split into a Marxist faction and the original Islamic group in 1974. The Marxist group was later renamed Sazman-e Peykar dar Rah-e Azadi Tabagheh Kargar or simply Peykar (The Organization for the Liberation of the Working Class), but the Islamic Mojahedin retained the original name."
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17)"By 1975 the Mojahedin had in turn subdivided, and a breakaway group called the Peykar began to concentrate on the working class struggle"
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18)"sided with the Marxist faction during the schism that produced two groups - one that stayed ture to its original Islamic worldview and the other, the Marxist Mujahedin, which eventually became Paykar"
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So two people think it should be merged, no-one thinks it should be deleted, but still it sits in AfD without ny merger proposal having been made. I've done it now, but honestly... Kevin McE ( talk) 16:29, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
The result was Procedural keep. The nominator did not make a deletion argument, but argued for a merge. This is not the proper venue for a merge discussion, and this argument should have been made using the process at WP:MERGE. While we do sometimes merge articles at AFD per WP:ATD, this is only as an alternative to deletion when a deletion argument has been made. ( non-admin closure) 4meter4 ( talk) 23:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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Most academic sources refer to the "Marxist Mojahedin" as a "Marxist faction" or "Marxist branch" of the Mojahedin that didn't have its own name initially but later named itself Organization of Struggle for the Emancipation of the Working Class (also known as Peykar or Paykar). This article should be merged into Organization of Struggle for the Emancipation of the Working Class per scholarly WP:DUE. Fad Ariff ( talk) 12:27, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
See the academic consensus about this:
1)"Immediately after the revolution, when the Marxist Mojahedin renamed itself Peykar"
[1]
2)"Paykar organization” (Marxist Mujahedin)"
[2]
3)"It might be worth noting that Peykar had its origins within the Mojahedin. It once constituted the Marxist wing of the organization. At one point in the mid-1970s it carried out an internal "coup" in an attempt to transform the organization into a Marxist Leninist organization. The coup included execution of an opponent from the Islamic wing. This action ultimately failed, and the Marxist-Mojahedin were expelled, later forming Peykar."
[3]
4)"The Marxist branch was to name itself as the Paykar Group following the Iranian revolution”
[4]
5)"The Islamic wing of the Mojahedin refused to give up the name, and eventually the Marxist Mojahedin adopted the name Peykar (Struggle)"
[5]
6)"Paykar, the Neo-Marxist splinter group which broke away from the Mojahedin prior to the revolution."
[6]
7"While the remaining primary members of MEK, including Masoud Rajavi, were imprisoned, some of the early members of MEK ... formed a new Marxist organization, later known as Organization of Struggle for the Emancipation of the Working Class or simply Peykar."
[7]
8)"The Marxist offshoot from the Sazman-i Mojahedin-i Khalq-i Iran. From 1975 to 1979, this organization was known as the Marxist Mojahedin. After the revolution, it adopted the title of Sazman-i Paykar dar Rah-i Azad-i Tabaqeh-i Kargar (The Fighting Organisation of the Road to Liberating the Working Class). It is now known simply as Kaykar (Battle)”
.
[8]
9)"Converting to Marxism in the mid-1970s, he had led the Mojahedin's Marxist offshoot, which, after the revolution, adopted the name Sazeman-e Paykar dar Rah-e Azadi-ye Tabaqeh-ye Kargar (Combat organization on the road to the emancipation of the working class) - better known as Paykar."
.
[9]
10)"In 1976, the Mojaedin split into two opposing sections. A group of Mojahedin denounced hte path of armed struggle and the reference to Islam, and split to set up a secular guerilla organisation by the name of Peykar Khalgh. This split served to strenghen the Islamic identity of the original Mojahedin Khalgh Organisation."
[10]
11)"Marxist-Leninist Mujahedin. Soon after the revolution it acquired a new name: Sazman-e Paykar dar Rah-e Azadi-e Tabaqah-e Kargar (The Combat Organisation on the Road to the Liberation of the Working Class), commonly known as Paykar, Combat"
[11]
12)"It might be worth noting that Peykar had its origins within the Mojahedin. It once constituted the Marxist wing of the organization."
[12]
13)"However, when the imprisoned cadres faithful to the original orientation of the organization were released after the revolution, the Marxist branch dropped the name Mojahedin-Khalq and chose the new name The Fighting Organization on the Road for the Liberation of the Working Class (Peykar dar Rah-e Azadi-e Tabaghey-e Kargar, hereafter Peykar)"
[13]
14)"The Marxist faction staged a coup and purged the non-Marxist elements. In 1978, the Marxist faction renamed itself Peykar and resumed its activities, and the Moslem members recaptured the leadership of the Mojahedin"
[14]
15)"a splinter organization from the People's Mojahedin of Iran (MEK). Peykar was a Marxist-Leninist organisation founded in 1975, and in the post-revolutionary era it moved its activities to Kurdistan"
[15]
16)"This organization split into a Marxist faction and the original Islamic group in 1974. The Marxist group was later renamed Sazman-e Peykar dar Rah-e Azadi Tabagheh Kargar or simply Peykar (The Organization for the Liberation of the Working Class), but the Islamic Mojahedin retained the original name."
[16]
17)"By 1975 the Mojahedin had in turn subdivided, and a breakaway group called the Peykar began to concentrate on the working class struggle"
[17]
18)"sided with the Marxist faction during the schism that produced two groups - one that stayed ture to its original Islamic worldview and the other, the Marxist Mujahedin, which eventually became Paykar"
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So two people think it should be merged, no-one thinks it should be deleted, but still it sits in AfD without ny merger proposal having been made. I've done it now, but honestly... Kevin McE ( talk) 16:29, 22 June 2022 (UTC)