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I could not find any articles already in Wikipedia to link to this article, nor content in Hoff's article to update other articles with links -- and is thus an
orphan. As lovely as she sounds, the article does not seem to be
notability guidelines. –
CaroleHenson (
talk)
14:45, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete.Keep per sources identified below satisfying
WP:NAUTHOR. Newspapers.com turns up 22 clippings of op-ed pieces and letters to the editor which MGH wrote and got published in The Taos News and The Santa Fe New Mexican. (Searches in ProQuest and EBSCOHost mostly duplicate that.) The one hit that jumps out in JSTOR is the one-paragraph
Library Quarterly book review of Bring out Your Own Book: Low Cost Self Publishing which she co-authored. But that isn't enough for an entire article about her; very little biographical information is available beyond the brief bios she submits with her bylines. Does not meet
WP:BASIC, let along
WP:NAUTHOR or
WP:GNG.Cielquiparle (
talk)
17:01, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep - Book reviews also include
Kirkus Reviews (Rose),
Publishers Weekly (Free Ride), Library Journal (Free Ride, via EBSCOhost), BookList and Lambda Book Report (Free Ride, abstracts via ProQuest), Lesbian Tide (Dyke Music, via EBSCOhost), and she has an entry in Feminists Who Changed America, 1963-1975 (p. 217). Her co-authored book about self-publishing is also discussed in context in "Media Report to Women", Reveal Digital (via
JSTOR). There are additional sources in the article that are not easily accessible but are not self-published nor self-authored and suggest further support for
WP:BASIC notability may exist, in addition to
WP:AUTHOR.
Beccaynr (
talk)
19:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Cool. Have changed !vote above in light of sources found. (Yes, I didn't search Google hard enough, also not with the name variations and book titles.) Will try to come back to this later this week if needed, but in the meantime this is plenty to work with!
Cielquiparle (
talk)
21:43, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Weak keep thanks to work of Beccaynr. I also found her listed in ""Marilyn Hoff." Gale Literature: Contemporary Authors, Gale, 2012. Gale Literature Resource Center, link.gale.com/apps/doc/H1000046208/LitRC?u=sfpl_main&sid=ebsco&xid=c2cc843a. Accessed 17 Nov. 2022." and there was a review of Dink's Blues in "CHOICE: Current Reviews for Academic Libraries. Sept, 1966, 520" although I don't have access to the actual review. Note that she is usually listed as "Marilyn Hoff" so adding her middle name may make searching more difficult and I wonder if it should be included in the article title.
Lamona (
talk)
01:49, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
I could not find any articles already in Wikipedia to link to this article, nor content in Hoff's article to update other articles with links -- and is thus an
orphan. As lovely as she sounds, the article does not seem to be
notability guidelines. –
CaroleHenson (
talk)
14:45, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete.Keep per sources identified below satisfying
WP:NAUTHOR. Newspapers.com turns up 22 clippings of op-ed pieces and letters to the editor which MGH wrote and got published in The Taos News and The Santa Fe New Mexican. (Searches in ProQuest and EBSCOHost mostly duplicate that.) The one hit that jumps out in JSTOR is the one-paragraph
Library Quarterly book review of Bring out Your Own Book: Low Cost Self Publishing which she co-authored. But that isn't enough for an entire article about her; very little biographical information is available beyond the brief bios she submits with her bylines. Does not meet
WP:BASIC, let along
WP:NAUTHOR or
WP:GNG.Cielquiparle (
talk)
17:01, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep - Book reviews also include
Kirkus Reviews (Rose),
Publishers Weekly (Free Ride), Library Journal (Free Ride, via EBSCOhost), BookList and Lambda Book Report (Free Ride, abstracts via ProQuest), Lesbian Tide (Dyke Music, via EBSCOhost), and she has an entry in Feminists Who Changed America, 1963-1975 (p. 217). Her co-authored book about self-publishing is also discussed in context in "Media Report to Women", Reveal Digital (via
JSTOR). There are additional sources in the article that are not easily accessible but are not self-published nor self-authored and suggest further support for
WP:BASIC notability may exist, in addition to
WP:AUTHOR.
Beccaynr (
talk)
19:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Cool. Have changed !vote above in light of sources found. (Yes, I didn't search Google hard enough, also not with the name variations and book titles.) Will try to come back to this later this week if needed, but in the meantime this is plenty to work with!
Cielquiparle (
talk)
21:43, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Weak keep thanks to work of Beccaynr. I also found her listed in ""Marilyn Hoff." Gale Literature: Contemporary Authors, Gale, 2012. Gale Literature Resource Center, link.gale.com/apps/doc/H1000046208/LitRC?u=sfpl_main&sid=ebsco&xid=c2cc843a. Accessed 17 Nov. 2022." and there was a review of Dink's Blues in "CHOICE: Current Reviews for Academic Libraries. Sept, 1966, 520" although I don't have access to the actual review. Note that she is usually listed as "Marilyn Hoff" so adding her middle name may make searching more difficult and I wonder if it should be included in the article title.
Lamona (
talk)
01:49, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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