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The result was delete. JGHowes talk 00:45, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
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Non-notable ROTM road, sources cited are close and primary, and a search finds nothing more than a few mentions of the planned upgrade, which aren't sigcov — fails WP:GNG / WP:GEOROAD. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 20:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete Generic roadway with no indication of importance. Reywas92 Talk 20:06, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Just another road with no sourced indication of notability. Coverage of upgrades and such are routine, and the only other mentions I find are passing. -- Kinu t/ c 20:10, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, per
WP:BEFORE, more time should be given to allow the article to grow. This was nominated hours after creation. Looks like there will be more coverage soon if that upgrade goes ahead too.
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20:17, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment BEFORE C.2 allows some latitude for new articles on subjects which can be shown or assumed to be notable. I moved this AfD on the basis of prior search, which suggested the subject is not notable; that is unlikely to change by passage of time alone. If the road one day does prove notable, an article can always be created then. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 06:21, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Mamre (homestead) is notable, and I'm finding some coverage for a "Mamre Road Precinct" that is a neighborhood of some sort, but the road itself does not appear to be notable. Hog Farm Talk 22:49, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Leaning delete, but I've also left a post at WT:AURD in case there is something that we're missing. -- Rs chen 7754 06:35, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. While notability of a road is hard to define, this one has the following in its favour in addition to the proposed upgrade:
- It provides access to Mamre (homestead), and should be linked from there to remove “orphan” status.
- It must have existed in some form from the earliest days of settlement, and some documentation should be findable.
- If so, some history could be added to the article.
- With a length of 13.3 km there must be historical info about other parts of the road further south than the homestead. Downsize43 ( talk) 07:21, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. (Not indenting as it looks odd with the indenting style used above.) While the homestead itself is certainly notable, a road that provides access to it (even if it shares the name) would presumably not automatically inherit notability based on that fact alone. Also, the last three of your bullet points are hypotheticals that aren't supported by a WP:BEFORE investigation and are almost a reverse form of crystal balling. -- Kinu t/ c 17:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - not nearly enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 02:14, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I couldn't find sufficient evidence of notability. Suonii180 ( talk) 09:15, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. JGHowes talk 00:45, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
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Non-notable ROTM road, sources cited are close and primary, and a search finds nothing more than a few mentions of the planned upgrade, which aren't sigcov — fails WP:GNG / WP:GEOROAD. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 20:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. DoubleGrazing ( talk) 20:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. DoubleGrazing ( talk) 20:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. DoubleGrazing ( talk) 20:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Generic roadway with no indication of importance. Reywas92 Talk 20:06, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Just another road with no sourced indication of notability. Coverage of upgrades and such are routine, and the only other mentions I find are passing. -- Kinu t/ c 20:10, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, per
WP:BEFORE, more time should be given to allow the article to grow. This was nominated hours after creation. Looks like there will be more coverage soon if that upgrade goes ahead too.
NemesisAT (
talk)
20:17, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment BEFORE C.2 allows some latitude for new articles on subjects which can be shown or assumed to be notable. I moved this AfD on the basis of prior search, which suggested the subject is not notable; that is unlikely to change by passage of time alone. If the road one day does prove notable, an article can always be created then. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 06:21, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Mamre (homestead) is notable, and I'm finding some coverage for a "Mamre Road Precinct" that is a neighborhood of some sort, but the road itself does not appear to be notable. Hog Farm Talk 22:49, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Leaning delete, but I've also left a post at WT:AURD in case there is something that we're missing. -- Rs chen 7754 06:35, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. While notability of a road is hard to define, this one has the following in its favour in addition to the proposed upgrade:
- It provides access to Mamre (homestead), and should be linked from there to remove “orphan” status.
- It must have existed in some form from the earliest days of settlement, and some documentation should be findable.
- If so, some history could be added to the article.
- With a length of 13.3 km there must be historical info about other parts of the road further south than the homestead. Downsize43 ( talk) 07:21, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. (Not indenting as it looks odd with the indenting style used above.) While the homestead itself is certainly notable, a road that provides access to it (even if it shares the name) would presumably not automatically inherit notability based on that fact alone. Also, the last three of your bullet points are hypotheticals that aren't supported by a WP:BEFORE investigation and are almost a reverse form of crystal balling. -- Kinu t/ c 17:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - not nearly enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 02:14, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I couldn't find sufficient evidence of notability. Suonii180 ( talk) 09:15, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.