The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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I first saw this article because it was tagged as a G11, which I declined. More recently, an IP changed everything from Peru to Venezuela. I reverted that change, but after looking more closely, I think it may be a Venezuelan product (see
here). That said, I see no notability, whichever country it comes from, although it's hard to figure out if there's more than one product. Anyway, it should either be deleted or clarified and properly sourced (it was created in 2008 and has little history) it passes
WP:GNG.
Bbb23 (
talk) 17:44, 13 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Comment. According to the edit history, the page was about the Peruvian beer until an anon IP editor added the Venezuelan beverage.
• Gene93k (
talk) 22:54, 13 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete unless someone adds two sources which meet WP:GNG before 20 October 2013. (Rationale: This short article is unsourced; challenged unsourced material is not allowed to remain on Wikipedia.) Dear non-Wikipedians: Please see
WP:42 for a brief discussion of which types of sources are acceptable. —
Unforgettableid (
talk) 09:51, 17 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Mark Arsten (
talk) 02:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Keep Google News search reveals lots of articles in reliable sources covering the subject substantially.Candleabracadabra (
talk) 22:08, 21 October 2013 (UTC)reply
The Venezuelan company is definitely notable. I have disambiguated that subject at the top of this article. This beer brand seems to have changed its name to
Pilsner Polar. The page should disambiguate with links to the company that made the Peruvian beer and the company that makes the Venezuelan beer. Since articles on the parent subjects already exist it would be senseless to delete the article. I would go ahead and disambiguate but people freak out if you make the changes need during the deletion discussion so it will have to wait. Perhaps the closing administrator can let me know when the discussion concludes? It's tough to put off needed edits because pages can get lost and forgotten. I have a long watchlist. Feel free to drop me a ntoe when the time comes?
Candleabracadabra (
talk) 22:15, 21 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Screw it. I went ahead and turned the page into a disambiguation. The article already covered two distinct subject both of which have articles on their parent companies. If someone objects they are free to undo. We are here to improve the encyclopedia. No reason to hone to mindless and unhelpful bureaucracy.
Candleabracadabra (
talk) 22:22, 21 October 2013 (UTC)reply
The above deletion debate is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the talk page of either
this nomination or the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
I first saw this article because it was tagged as a G11, which I declined. More recently, an IP changed everything from Peru to Venezuela. I reverted that change, but after looking more closely, I think it may be a Venezuelan product (see
here). That said, I see no notability, whichever country it comes from, although it's hard to figure out if there's more than one product. Anyway, it should either be deleted or clarified and properly sourced (it was created in 2008 and has little history) it passes
WP:GNG.
Bbb23 (
talk) 17:44, 13 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Comment. According to the edit history, the page was about the Peruvian beer until an anon IP editor added the Venezuelan beverage.
• Gene93k (
talk) 22:54, 13 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete unless someone adds two sources which meet WP:GNG before 20 October 2013. (Rationale: This short article is unsourced; challenged unsourced material is not allowed to remain on Wikipedia.) Dear non-Wikipedians: Please see
WP:42 for a brief discussion of which types of sources are acceptable. —
Unforgettableid (
talk) 09:51, 17 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Mark Arsten (
talk) 02:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Keep Google News search reveals lots of articles in reliable sources covering the subject substantially.Candleabracadabra (
talk) 22:08, 21 October 2013 (UTC)reply
The Venezuelan company is definitely notable. I have disambiguated that subject at the top of this article. This beer brand seems to have changed its name to
Pilsner Polar. The page should disambiguate with links to the company that made the Peruvian beer and the company that makes the Venezuelan beer. Since articles on the parent subjects already exist it would be senseless to delete the article. I would go ahead and disambiguate but people freak out if you make the changes need during the deletion discussion so it will have to wait. Perhaps the closing administrator can let me know when the discussion concludes? It's tough to put off needed edits because pages can get lost and forgotten. I have a long watchlist. Feel free to drop me a ntoe when the time comes?
Candleabracadabra (
talk) 22:15, 21 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Screw it. I went ahead and turned the page into a disambiguation. The article already covered two distinct subject both of which have articles on their parent companies. If someone objects they are free to undo. We are here to improve the encyclopedia. No reason to hone to mindless and unhelpful bureaucracy.
Candleabracadabra (
talk) 22:22, 21 October 2013 (UTC)reply
The above deletion debate is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the talk page of either
this nomination or the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page.