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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 16:12, 5 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Main Maike Chali Jaungi Tum Dekhte Rahiyo

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The show doesnt have significant coverage. Whatever sources I could find discuss about the cast members of the show, and the show is mentioned here and there. This is not significant coverage, and thus fails WP:GNG.

Also, this article could have been deleted under G5, as created by blocked sock of previously blocked master, but there are other editors who edited the article. Not surprisingly, most of other edits come from IPs, and SPAs, and what seems to be a sock/meat farm. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:26, 4 October 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:29, 4 October 2018 (UTC) reply
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So said The Great Wiki Lord. ( talk) 18:39, 11 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. A simple search yields a modest number of coverage examples. They, are nevertheless, legitimate references from reliable sources to the notability of the show: here, here, here, from sources like India Entertainment ( here), Times of India ( here) and more here. Den... ( talk) 14:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC) reply
    @ Den...: Hi. Your first source, tellychakkar, is similar to IMDB. It tries to cover everything from Television. Just like having an entry on IMDB does not establish notability, having an entry on tellychakkar doesnt establish notability at all. The second source you provided, "xalmon.us" or "gametv" or whatever it is, is not reliable. The third source, entertainmentdog, is also similar to IMDB. In their about section they clearly mention Here at entertainment dog, we target to present all recent happenings and entertainment news from all across the nation. So having an entry there doesnt establish notability either. Fourth reference is a tweet by "Indian Express Entertainment", an online entertainment wing of a reliable source. But again, it doesnt establish notability as that twitter handle has 60.3k photos/videos, and 92.8k tweets; one of them about that show. And about the last source, it is a puff piece; more like a promotional release. Excluding the last TOI/entertainment times source, all the other sources only confirm the existence; but existence is not notability. And even if we count the TOI source as legitimate, even then the show fails general notability guidelines. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Usernamekiran: It is at this point, when we spar for the significance of notability, that we part ways. The fact the show has been mentioned in these and other sources is for me evidence enough of the need WP has of including it in its pages. I have never watched this program and did not even know it existed (but I don't watch much TV anyhow), and yet, I think this subject passes ( WP:N), even if barely. In short, this article enhances WP's scope and reach. The notability guidelines were written to help diminish abuse ( WP:WHYN), particularly in self-promotion. I don't see that problem here. I see this article as an attempt to inform, and since we are free to exercise editorial judgment ( WP:PAGEDECIDE), I believe we all can transcendence whatever attachment we may have with the law to appreciate the usefulness in this article. Den... ( talk) 19:49, 12 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:59, 20 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 23:13, 28 October 2018 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Sandstein 16:12, 5 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Main Maike Chali Jaungi Tum Dekhte Rahiyo

Main Maike Chali Jaungi Tum Dekhte Rahiyo (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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The show doesnt have significant coverage. Whatever sources I could find discuss about the cast members of the show, and the show is mentioned here and there. This is not significant coverage, and thus fails WP:GNG.

Also, this article could have been deleted under G5, as created by blocked sock of previously blocked master, but there are other editors who edited the article. Not surprisingly, most of other edits come from IPs, and SPAs, and what seems to be a sock/meat farm. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:26, 4 October 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:29, 4 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:29, 4 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So said The Great Wiki Lord. ( talk) 18:39, 11 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. A simple search yields a modest number of coverage examples. They, are nevertheless, legitimate references from reliable sources to the notability of the show: here, here, here, from sources like India Entertainment ( here), Times of India ( here) and more here. Den... ( talk) 14:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC) reply
    @ Den...: Hi. Your first source, tellychakkar, is similar to IMDB. It tries to cover everything from Television. Just like having an entry on IMDB does not establish notability, having an entry on tellychakkar doesnt establish notability at all. The second source you provided, "xalmon.us" or "gametv" or whatever it is, is not reliable. The third source, entertainmentdog, is also similar to IMDB. In their about section they clearly mention Here at entertainment dog, we target to present all recent happenings and entertainment news from all across the nation. So having an entry there doesnt establish notability either. Fourth reference is a tweet by "Indian Express Entertainment", an online entertainment wing of a reliable source. But again, it doesnt establish notability as that twitter handle has 60.3k photos/videos, and 92.8k tweets; one of them about that show. And about the last source, it is a puff piece; more like a promotional release. Excluding the last TOI/entertainment times source, all the other sources only confirm the existence; but existence is not notability. And even if we count the TOI source as legitimate, even then the show fails general notability guidelines. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Usernamekiran: It is at this point, when we spar for the significance of notability, that we part ways. The fact the show has been mentioned in these and other sources is for me evidence enough of the need WP has of including it in its pages. I have never watched this program and did not even know it existed (but I don't watch much TV anyhow), and yet, I think this subject passes ( WP:N), even if barely. In short, this article enhances WP's scope and reach. The notability guidelines were written to help diminish abuse ( WP:WHYN), particularly in self-promotion. I don't see that problem here. I see this article as an attempt to inform, and since we are free to exercise editorial judgment ( WP:PAGEDECIDE), I believe we all can transcendence whatever attachment we may have with the law to appreciate the usefulness in this article. Den... ( talk) 19:49, 12 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:59, 20 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 23:13, 28 October 2018 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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