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The result was delete. This has been going on for long enough now, with only the article's subject arguing for a "keep". I am closing this one day early as snow delete. Randykitty ( talk) 18:50, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply

Madura Kulatunga

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Does not meet WP:GNG. The references seem to be about the subject's alleged product, not him. For that matter, the article is mostly about his product, not him. If one removes all the promotional information, what is left is very sparse indeed, and not backed up by citations. Also, violates WP:COI and Wikipedia:Autobiography. ubiquity ( talk) 15:50, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Autobio and not sure how much of this is even accurate. (Almost sounds a little boastful too!) Wgolf ( talk) 15:52, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:Wgolf Check out the hard copy of Lankadeepa Sandella article about Madura Kulatunga on YouTube (Video duration 56 seconds only) Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 09:05, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: an IP continues to remove all coi and autobiography tags. ubiquity ( talk) 15:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete This is a pointless bio about a non-notable person. No good ref's. To the person sockpuppetting: if you have read articles about him, please citate them properly and add them. The only info in this bio is a product he made. Jcmcc450 ( talk) 15:51, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:Jcmcc450 Sinhala newspaper articles about Madura Kulatunga are not available online. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 19:07, 17 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Collapsing IP comments from the same individual. Mike VTalk 04:04, 14 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment When !voting, please make sure that your arguments are based in policy. If you want to assert notability for this person, then claims (like being known by 80% of computer users in Sri Lanka) need to be verifiable by references in reliable sources. Just saying something like "this person is very notable" will make it very likely that your !vote will be ignored by the closing admin. Thanks. -- Randykitty ( talk) 19:33, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Not notable and dependent on poor quality references GoneWilde ( talk) 04:01, 15 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:GoneWilde Sinhala newspaper articles about Madura Kulatunga are not available online. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 19:35, 17 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:Dan arndt Check out the hard copy of Lankadeepa Sandella article about Madura Kulatunga on YouTube (Video duration 56 seconds only) Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 09:10, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I made changes to article and improved it according to Wikipedia policies. I really appreciate your suggestions. Give me more time to make this article better. Thank you. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 17:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC) reply
I read the revised article. Except for one biographical paragraph, it is still mostly about the product, and so are the references. The references include directory listings. I still believe this subject does not come anywhere near meeting the general notability guidelines. ubiquity ( talk) 23:19, 15 March 2015 (UTC) reply
I concur with User:Ubiquity in that the references only establish the potential notability of the 'Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary' and do not establish notability for the creator. Dan arndt ( talk) 06:19, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I want to thanks User:Dan arndt for identifying the potential notability of the 'Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary' by using established references. The references establish the potential notability of the 'Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary' also confirm Madura Kulatunga as the creator. By creating potentially notable 'Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary' Madura Kulatunga is notable for that creation. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 11:29, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Firstly before I comment, I have major concerns that there is a potential COI with the editor, Madura Kulatunga, who created and continues to substantially edit this article? Secondly I said the dictionary is 'potentially' notable. Thirdly notability is not necessarily inheritable. Finally I stand by my early comments this article fails to establish how Madura Kulatunga is notable. Dan arndt ( talk) 12:08, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment News articles about Madura Kulatunga are published on national newspapers. Year 2003 - Wijaya Pariganaka Magazine, Year 2004 - Dailymirror, Year 2004 - Sunday Lankadeepa, Year 2006 - Sunday Lankadeepa (not repeat / new article), Year 2006 - Sunday Silumina, Year 2007 - Dinamina, Year 2011 - Lankadeepa Sandella magazine, Sinhala newspaper article archives are currently not available on internet. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 12:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Lankadeepa Sandella magazine is only publish articles about notable people in Sri Lanka. Most of them are actors and actresses. Lankadeepa Sandella on 14-August-2011 (Page 11) they published article about Madura Kulatunga. Watch hard copy of this article on YouTube (56 seconds only / Change video quality to HD 1080p) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wObY45ySvUU Thank you Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 15:50, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:APerson Sinhala newspaper articles about Madura Kulatunga are not available online. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 16:57, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete; insufficient sources on him to establish notability. my attention was brought to this article by a posting at WP:COIN. Jytdog ( talk) 12:41, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:Jytdog There are sufficient offline sources available on Madura Kulatunga to establish notability. Such as Year 2003 - Wijaya Pariganaka Magazine, Year 2004 - Dailymirror, Year 2004 - Sunday Lankadeepa, Year 2006 - Sunday Lankadeepa (not repeat / new article), Year 2006 - Sunday Silumina, Year 2007 - Dinamina, Year 2011 - Lankadeepa Sandella magazine. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 15:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Please refer to the Wikipedia:Offline sources - Wikipedia's reliable sources guideline states that articles should be sourced with reliable, third-party, published sources. Even though Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, there is no distinction between using online versus offline sources. In fact, many great sources are only available offline. Don't let that fact scare you away from using them as a source in Wikipedia. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 15:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
are any of those sources in english? Jytdog ( talk) 16:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Hi User:Jytdog Available only in Sinhala language. But we can translate. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 17:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • speedy and strong delete Should never have been allowed to exist for this long. Spectacularly fails WP:BIO. ukexpat ( talk) 16:20, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Madura Kulatunga is the Developer of Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary available in Online Edition, Android App and Software Package. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 18:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary Online Edition available at http://www.maduraonline.com/?find=Mother Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 18:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary Android App available at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maduraonline Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 18:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary Software Package available at http://download.cnet.com/windows/madura-kulatunga/3260-20_4-6285889-1.html Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 18:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. This has been going on for long enough now, with only the article's subject arguing for a "keep". I am closing this one day early as snow delete. Randykitty ( talk) 18:50, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply

Madura Kulatunga

Madura Kulatunga (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Does not meet WP:GNG. The references seem to be about the subject's alleged product, not him. For that matter, the article is mostly about his product, not him. If one removes all the promotional information, what is left is very sparse indeed, and not backed up by citations. Also, violates WP:COI and Wikipedia:Autobiography. ubiquity ( talk) 15:50, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Autobio and not sure how much of this is even accurate. (Almost sounds a little boastful too!) Wgolf ( talk) 15:52, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:Wgolf Check out the hard copy of Lankadeepa Sandella article about Madura Kulatunga on YouTube (Video duration 56 seconds only) Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 09:05, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: an IP continues to remove all coi and autobiography tags. ubiquity ( talk) 15:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 00:36, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 00:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 00:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is a pointless bio about a non-notable person. No good ref's. To the person sockpuppetting: if you have read articles about him, please citate them properly and add them. The only info in this bio is a product he made. Jcmcc450 ( talk) 15:51, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:Jcmcc450 Sinhala newspaper articles about Madura Kulatunga are not available online. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 19:07, 17 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Collapsing IP comments from the same individual. Mike VTalk 04:04, 14 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment When !voting, please make sure that your arguments are based in policy. If you want to assert notability for this person, then claims (like being known by 80% of computer users in Sri Lanka) need to be verifiable by references in reliable sources. Just saying something like "this person is very notable" will make it very likely that your !vote will be ignored by the closing admin. Thanks. -- Randykitty ( talk) 19:33, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Not notable and dependent on poor quality references GoneWilde ( talk) 04:01, 15 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:GoneWilde Sinhala newspaper articles about Madura Kulatunga are not available online. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 19:35, 17 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:Dan arndt Check out the hard copy of Lankadeepa Sandella article about Madura Kulatunga on YouTube (Video duration 56 seconds only) Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 09:10, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I made changes to article and improved it according to Wikipedia policies. I really appreciate your suggestions. Give me more time to make this article better. Thank you. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 17:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC) reply
I read the revised article. Except for one biographical paragraph, it is still mostly about the product, and so are the references. The references include directory listings. I still believe this subject does not come anywhere near meeting the general notability guidelines. ubiquity ( talk) 23:19, 15 March 2015 (UTC) reply
I concur with User:Ubiquity in that the references only establish the potential notability of the 'Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary' and do not establish notability for the creator. Dan arndt ( talk) 06:19, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I want to thanks User:Dan arndt for identifying the potential notability of the 'Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary' by using established references. The references establish the potential notability of the 'Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary' also confirm Madura Kulatunga as the creator. By creating potentially notable 'Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary' Madura Kulatunga is notable for that creation. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 11:29, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Firstly before I comment, I have major concerns that there is a potential COI with the editor, Madura Kulatunga, who created and continues to substantially edit this article? Secondly I said the dictionary is 'potentially' notable. Thirdly notability is not necessarily inheritable. Finally I stand by my early comments this article fails to establish how Madura Kulatunga is notable. Dan arndt ( talk) 12:08, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment News articles about Madura Kulatunga are published on national newspapers. Year 2003 - Wijaya Pariganaka Magazine, Year 2004 - Dailymirror, Year 2004 - Sunday Lankadeepa, Year 2006 - Sunday Lankadeepa (not repeat / new article), Year 2006 - Sunday Silumina, Year 2007 - Dinamina, Year 2011 - Lankadeepa Sandella magazine, Sinhala newspaper article archives are currently not available on internet. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 12:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Lankadeepa Sandella magazine is only publish articles about notable people in Sri Lanka. Most of them are actors and actresses. Lankadeepa Sandella on 14-August-2011 (Page 11) they published article about Madura Kulatunga. Watch hard copy of this article on YouTube (56 seconds only / Change video quality to HD 1080p) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wObY45ySvUU Thank you Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 15:50, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:APerson Sinhala newspaper articles about Madura Kulatunga are not available online. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 16:57, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete; insufficient sources on him to establish notability. my attention was brought to this article by a posting at WP:COIN. Jytdog ( talk) 12:41, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Dear User:Jytdog There are sufficient offline sources available on Madura Kulatunga to establish notability. Such as Year 2003 - Wijaya Pariganaka Magazine, Year 2004 - Dailymirror, Year 2004 - Sunday Lankadeepa, Year 2006 - Sunday Lankadeepa (not repeat / new article), Year 2006 - Sunday Silumina, Year 2007 - Dinamina, Year 2011 - Lankadeepa Sandella magazine. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 15:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Please refer to the Wikipedia:Offline sources - Wikipedia's reliable sources guideline states that articles should be sourced with reliable, third-party, published sources. Even though Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, there is no distinction between using online versus offline sources. In fact, many great sources are only available offline. Don't let that fact scare you away from using them as a source in Wikipedia. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 15:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
are any of those sources in english? Jytdog ( talk) 16:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Hi User:Jytdog Available only in Sinhala language. But we can translate. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 17:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • speedy and strong delete Should never have been allowed to exist for this long. Spectacularly fails WP:BIO. ukexpat ( talk) 16:20, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Madura Kulatunga is the Developer of Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary available in Online Edition, Android App and Software Package. Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 18:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary Online Edition available at http://www.maduraonline.com/?find=Mother Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 18:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary Android App available at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maduraonline Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 18:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Madura English-Sinhala Dictionary Software Package available at http://download.cnet.com/windows/madura-kulatunga/3260-20_4-6285889-1.html Madura Kulatunga ( talk) 18:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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