The result of the debate was No consensus. Deathphoenix ʕ 21:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC) reply
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User:TheEditrix. The Book of Jasher, also Sefer haYashar and sometimes translated as Book of the Upright is what appears to be a volume of poetry and is mentioned twice in the Old Testament. We have an entry on that book already at
Sefer haYashar (midrash)
Sefer haYashar (Biblical references). Calling it Lost Book would be misleading and original research, so delete.
Dr Zak
17:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
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Addendum to Keep: Please note that this article has been in existence for only a couple of days. It's still undergoing editing and linking, and I'm still adding links to source information, of which there is MUCH. At WORST it's a stub. Not a delete. This AfD is VASTLY premature, as is original proposer's sudden interest in AfDing and Merge-deleting every article I've written in the past week. WAY premature. And way out of line. I could point to 2000 WP articles with less data, and less research. Premature deletion of articles written in good faith is stupendously discouraging, and it's a good way to chase serious, thoughtful, good-faith editors out of the community. -- The Editrix 01:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Comment - According to the accepted rules of Hebrew transliteration, the pronunciation of this term should be sefer hayyashar. The first word is the common noun in Hebrew for “book”, while the second term (which is probably a verbal-adjective for “be straight / righteous”) is pronounced with an a-a vowel-pattern. Indeed, an article for the
Sefer haYashar exists in Wikipedia, making EX’s creation of the
Lost Book of Yasher redundant. The title that
TheEditrix chooses, jasher, is the transliteration found in the
King James Version, while the
New Revised Standard Version has the correct form Yashar. However, several issues are raised by Yasher and
TheEditrix seems unaware of them.
In other words, the
Lost Book of Jasher, discussed by
TheEditrix, exists primarily in the English of the
KJV. There probably never was a “lost book” of such name, and the only thing lost would have been a long tradition of songs that were sung in the Temple of Jerusalem, prior to its destruction by the Babylonians. There is no reason for keeping this article, and I would suggest not merging it either. As it stands, it is a fork and it fails A.
OR and B.
WP:NPOV.
Em-jay-es
06:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was No consensus. Deathphoenix ʕ 21:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC) reply
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User:TheEditrix. The Book of Jasher, also Sefer haYashar and sometimes translated as Book of the Upright is what appears to be a volume of poetry and is mentioned twice in the Old Testament. We have an entry on that book already at
Sefer haYashar (midrash)
Sefer haYashar (Biblical references). Calling it Lost Book would be misleading and original research, so delete.
Dr Zak
17:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
reply
Addendum to Keep: Please note that this article has been in existence for only a couple of days. It's still undergoing editing and linking, and I'm still adding links to source information, of which there is MUCH. At WORST it's a stub. Not a delete. This AfD is VASTLY premature, as is original proposer's sudden interest in AfDing and Merge-deleting every article I've written in the past week. WAY premature. And way out of line. I could point to 2000 WP articles with less data, and less research. Premature deletion of articles written in good faith is stupendously discouraging, and it's a good way to chase serious, thoughtful, good-faith editors out of the community. -- The Editrix 01:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Comment - According to the accepted rules of Hebrew transliteration, the pronunciation of this term should be sefer hayyashar. The first word is the common noun in Hebrew for “book”, while the second term (which is probably a verbal-adjective for “be straight / righteous”) is pronounced with an a-a vowel-pattern. Indeed, an article for the
Sefer haYashar exists in Wikipedia, making EX’s creation of the
Lost Book of Yasher redundant. The title that
TheEditrix chooses, jasher, is the transliteration found in the
King James Version, while the
New Revised Standard Version has the correct form Yashar. However, several issues are raised by Yasher and
TheEditrix seems unaware of them.
In other words, the
Lost Book of Jasher, discussed by
TheEditrix, exists primarily in the English of the
KJV. There probably never was a “lost book” of such name, and the only thing lost would have been a long tradition of songs that were sung in the Temple of Jerusalem, prior to its destruction by the Babylonians. There is no reason for keeping this article, and I would suggest not merging it either. As it stands, it is a fork and it fails A.
OR and B.
WP:NPOV.
Em-jay-es
06:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
reply