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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 01:10, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
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Article has an unclear scope. What constitute a "sponsor" is undefined such as if the parent company of a works team or companies that owns the franchise for teams (such as companies in the Philippine Basketball Association) constitute as a sponsor at all. Hariboneagle927 ( talk) 11:31, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 15:25, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I'm so tempted to do a WP:LIKE because I think the topic is fascinating. But that's an WP:AADD so I'm not doing that. I'll just make a comment to the author: I hope this survives, but have no idea if policy supports this. If it doesn't, maybe you should have and could create an article about corporate sponsorship of sports teams in general, and then include a list. To everyone else, if such an article exists already, and this article doesn't survive AfD, I suggest you move the content to such an article. CT55555 ( talk) 07:07, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete doesn't demonstrate that it meets WP:NLIST or WP:GNG, and also probably WP:NOTADVERTISING, as it isn't the purpose of Wikipedia to advertise for sponsors. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 08:18, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: It meets WP:LISTPURP as a navigational list to provide information about clubs that are or have been sponsored in their name than otherwise. It also fulfils WP:LSC by being clear about its objectives. If @ Hariboneagle927: is concerned that it is ambiguous, then that is not a good WP:DEL-REASON. The better thing to do would be WP:BOLD and change it to clarify (Which I would be happy to do if you'd like me to). @ CT55555: Would the policies at WP:SAL assist you in that? @ Joseph2302:, It's not a NOTAD case, its just a collection of clubs that changed their name after a sponsor (works or economical). The C of E God Save the Queen! ( talk) 11:26, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I don't consider myself well informed about when lists should or should not be created, but User:The C of E linked to WP:SAL and it seems to meet that criteria. I don't think the points about corporate owned teams is a reason to delete, as that is a different issue and also something that can be fixed if anyone wants to. I made a comment above, but it wasn't a "keep" so don't count my opinion twice please. CT55555 ( talk) 15:00, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment if the list actually contained every sports team named after a sponsor, it would be unwieldy. Literally every professional cycling team is named after a sponsor, and they change sponsors every 1-2 seasons, so should all be listed. Which is exactly why this list should be seen as too broad and unencyclopedic. If you want to limit it to just association football clubs then that would be fine IMO, but sports teams will leave way too many teams and make the list unreadably long and pointless. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 12:55, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Per Joseph2302's very good explanation of why this is not at all encyclopedic.
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15:56, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Do you think that explanation could be used to inform improvements, rather than delete? CT55555 ( talk) 16:02, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Encourages WP:SPAM. No Great Shaker ( talk) 23:20, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 01:10, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
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Article has an unclear scope. What constitute a "sponsor" is undefined such as if the parent company of a works team or companies that owns the franchise for teams (such as companies in the Philippine Basketball Association) constitute as a sponsor at all. Hariboneagle927 ( talk) 11:31, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Advertising-related deletion discussions. Hariboneagle927 ( talk) 11:31, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Hariboneagle927 ( talk) 11:31, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:43, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:44, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 15:25, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I'm so tempted to do a WP:LIKE because I think the topic is fascinating. But that's an WP:AADD so I'm not doing that. I'll just make a comment to the author: I hope this survives, but have no idea if policy supports this. If it doesn't, maybe you should have and could create an article about corporate sponsorship of sports teams in general, and then include a list. To everyone else, if such an article exists already, and this article doesn't survive AfD, I suggest you move the content to such an article. CT55555 ( talk) 07:07, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete doesn't demonstrate that it meets WP:NLIST or WP:GNG, and also probably WP:NOTADVERTISING, as it isn't the purpose of Wikipedia to advertise for sponsors. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 08:18, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: It meets WP:LISTPURP as a navigational list to provide information about clubs that are or have been sponsored in their name than otherwise. It also fulfils WP:LSC by being clear about its objectives. If @ Hariboneagle927: is concerned that it is ambiguous, then that is not a good WP:DEL-REASON. The better thing to do would be WP:BOLD and change it to clarify (Which I would be happy to do if you'd like me to). @ CT55555: Would the policies at WP:SAL assist you in that? @ Joseph2302:, It's not a NOTAD case, its just a collection of clubs that changed their name after a sponsor (works or economical). The C of E God Save the Queen! ( talk) 11:26, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I don't consider myself well informed about when lists should or should not be created, but User:The C of E linked to WP:SAL and it seems to meet that criteria. I don't think the points about corporate owned teams is a reason to delete, as that is a different issue and also something that can be fixed if anyone wants to. I made a comment above, but it wasn't a "keep" so don't count my opinion twice please. CT55555 ( talk) 15:00, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment if the list actually contained every sports team named after a sponsor, it would be unwieldy. Literally every professional cycling team is named after a sponsor, and they change sponsors every 1-2 seasons, so should all be listed. Which is exactly why this list should be seen as too broad and unencyclopedic. If you want to limit it to just association football clubs then that would be fine IMO, but sports teams will leave way too many teams and make the list unreadably long and pointless. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 12:55, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Per Joseph2302's very good explanation of why this is not at all encyclopedic.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
15:56, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Do you think that explanation could be used to inform improvements, rather than delete? CT55555 ( talk) 16:02, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Encourages WP:SPAM. No Great Shaker ( talk) 23:20, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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