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The result was merge to Wally Hammond. – Joe ( talk) 20:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
List of international cricket centuries by Wally Hammond
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The consensus about such lists is that they should not exist unless there is coverage in reliable sources where they are discussed as a group. As no coverage was found, so this list fails WP:NLIST. Störm (talk) 08:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment the recently closed (as merge) discussions have shown that you are talking shit. Spike 'em ( talk) 09:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect and not merge to player article per WP:NOTSTATS as per three most recent discussions: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Michael Atherton, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Tom Latham, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Dinesh Chandimal. Ajf773 ( talk) 19:43, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Merge No need for separate article, WP:NOTSTATS does not count as centuries are a small and rather exclusive part of a cricketers career. If it was his whole international career details I would have said delete, but it's not so its def a merge. Davidstewartharvey ( talk) 09:01, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Merge. No issues with inclusion in the main subject article, per WP:NOTSTATS and WP:SPLIT. wjemather please leave a message... 13:13, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - note to closing admin - there was a
RfC on this and the consensus on
WP:CRIC was to remove these statistics from bios per WP:NOTSTATS.
Störm
(talk) 06:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not true:
"There's no consensus here that they should universally be included. Nor is there a clear consensus that such sections should be removed from all cricketer articles."
wjemather please leave a message... 10:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not true:
- Delete with very strong NO merge. Hammond's article is a Featured Article. It made FA status, on the back of Sarastro1's work without needing a table such as this. It should stay as such. Although I can see the place for stats tables, and might consider one or two very short summary tables, it's clear that we can write FA's without them. That should give us a pretty good indication that they are unnecessary.
Blue Square Thing (
talk) 17:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Detailing significant numbers in prose alone is cumbersome and impairs readability, so tables are the way to go, especially in a statistics driven sport. There is no reason to believe FA status would be affected by having such a table, and some would view it as an improvement. wjemather please leave a message... 10:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Wally Hammond. – Joe ( talk) 20:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
List of international cricket centuries by Wally Hammond
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The consensus about such lists is that they should not exist unless there is coverage in reliable sources where they are discussed as a group. As no coverage was found, so this list fails WP:NLIST. Störm (talk) 08:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 08:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 08:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment the recently closed (as merge) discussions have shown that you are talking shit. Spike 'em ( talk) 09:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect and not merge to player article per WP:NOTSTATS as per three most recent discussions: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Michael Atherton, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Tom Latham, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Dinesh Chandimal. Ajf773 ( talk) 19:43, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Merge No need for separate article, WP:NOTSTATS does not count as centuries are a small and rather exclusive part of a cricketers career. If it was his whole international career details I would have said delete, but it's not so its def a merge. Davidstewartharvey ( talk) 09:01, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Merge. No issues with inclusion in the main subject article, per WP:NOTSTATS and WP:SPLIT. wjemather please leave a message... 13:13, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - note to closing admin - there was a
RfC on this and the consensus on
WP:CRIC was to remove these statistics from bios per WP:NOTSTATS.
Störm
(talk) 06:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not true:
"There's no consensus here that they should universally be included. Nor is there a clear consensus that such sections should be removed from all cricketer articles."
wjemather please leave a message... 10:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not true:
- Delete with very strong NO merge. Hammond's article is a Featured Article. It made FA status, on the back of Sarastro1's work without needing a table such as this. It should stay as such. Although I can see the place for stats tables, and might consider one or two very short summary tables, it's clear that we can write FA's without them. That should give us a pretty good indication that they are unnecessary.
Blue Square Thing (
talk) 17:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Detailing significant numbers in prose alone is cumbersome and impairs readability, so tables are the way to go, especially in a statistics driven sport. There is no reason to believe FA status would be affected by having such a table, and some would view it as an improvement. wjemather please leave a message... 10:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
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