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The result was delete. I am only deleting the article originally listed in the AfD as there is consensus that it does not meet criteria for lists on Wikipedia. There seems to be a consensus that
List of hotels in Lagos is a better-quality article, so for now, I'm leaving that one alone, with
WP:NPASR in effect.
Joyous! |
Talk 12:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Doesn't appear to meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability with barely any list entries having their own articles (whose notability is also questionable).
WP:NOTTRAVEL and
WP:NOTDIRAjf773 (
talk) 07:01, 16 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reasons:
Comment.
List of hotels in Lagos seems to be an appropriate navigational list since it has multiple bluelinked hotels with their own articles that suggest individual notability. At most, these could be merged back into
List of hotels in Nigeria, but not deleted. --
Arxiloxos (
talk) 22:49, 16 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I am considering nominating that article for deletion as well, pending the outcome of these two articles AfD's.
Ajf773 (
talk) 21:34, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment. @
Ajf773:
List of hotels in Lagos should be left out of this AFD discussion because all entries without articles have been removed from the list. It is now at par with other "hotels in city" related lists.
Eruditescholar (
talk) 10:03, 17 November 2016 (UTC)reply
We are discussing notability for lists here. Explain to us how it passes
WP:LISTN.
Ajf773 (
talk) 10:19, 17 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Good faith applies if a good faith effort has been made. I don't see any effort to find
significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. I just see
walls of text. I've travelled to 20 countries, and stayed in dozens of hotels and hostels around the world. I'm on record for editing hundreds of articles about subjects and places the
global south; just see my user pages. I can't assume good faith when I see a list
that is such a mess and is littered with red links, about a city that is justifiably notorious for its Nigerian prince scams and
street crime. Please, give me three good reasons to change my mind. To clarify, for the record, I would keep the
list of hotels in Lagos.
Bearian (
talk) 18:02, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Consensus to delete the Harcourt list, but Lagos? Sandstein 19:50, 27 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:50, 27 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I have no opinion regarding List of hotels in Lagos and agree that should be a separate AfD.--
Rpclod (
talk) 18:55, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Port Harcourt - per nom; the Lagos one probably needs to be done in a separate AfD to avoid confusion; they're two very different articles in terms of quality and notability claims
Spiderone 19:49, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
What's the confusion? Both articles are similar in nature and nominated for the exact same reasons.
Ajf773 (
talk) 23:21, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
It could be argued as being navigational. I would personally say weak delete for Lagos as it's not inherently notable and I can't find any evidence of LISTN or GNG. It is, however, different to the Harcourt list because the Harcourt list only has one notable hotel whereas Lagos at least just lists notable hotels.
Spiderone 19:07, 29 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment This should be done on two different templates as persons might want to vote keep for one and delete for the other
Mahveotm (
talk) 18:48, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Two templates are not required. These two were bundled into one AFD because they are both similar in purpose and nominated for the exact same reasons.
Ajf773 (
talk) 17:53, 4 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep I vote to keep the article about Lagos and delete or improve tremendously the article about Port Harcourt.
Mahveotm (
talk) 18:49, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. I am only deleting the article originally listed in the AfD as there is consensus that it does not meet criteria for lists on Wikipedia. There seems to be a consensus that
List of hotels in Lagos is a better-quality article, so for now, I'm leaving that one alone, with
WP:NPASR in effect.
Joyous! |
Talk 12:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Doesn't appear to meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability with barely any list entries having their own articles (whose notability is also questionable).
WP:NOTTRAVEL and
WP:NOTDIRAjf773 (
talk) 07:01, 16 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reasons:
Comment.
List of hotels in Lagos seems to be an appropriate navigational list since it has multiple bluelinked hotels with their own articles that suggest individual notability. At most, these could be merged back into
List of hotels in Nigeria, but not deleted. --
Arxiloxos (
talk) 22:49, 16 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I am considering nominating that article for deletion as well, pending the outcome of these two articles AfD's.
Ajf773 (
talk) 21:34, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment. @
Ajf773:
List of hotels in Lagos should be left out of this AFD discussion because all entries without articles have been removed from the list. It is now at par with other "hotels in city" related lists.
Eruditescholar (
talk) 10:03, 17 November 2016 (UTC)reply
We are discussing notability for lists here. Explain to us how it passes
WP:LISTN.
Ajf773 (
talk) 10:19, 17 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Good faith applies if a good faith effort has been made. I don't see any effort to find
significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. I just see
walls of text. I've travelled to 20 countries, and stayed in dozens of hotels and hostels around the world. I'm on record for editing hundreds of articles about subjects and places the
global south; just see my user pages. I can't assume good faith when I see a list
that is such a mess and is littered with red links, about a city that is justifiably notorious for its Nigerian prince scams and
street crime. Please, give me three good reasons to change my mind. To clarify, for the record, I would keep the
list of hotels in Lagos.
Bearian (
talk) 18:02, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Consensus to delete the Harcourt list, but Lagos? Sandstein 19:50, 27 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:50, 27 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I have no opinion regarding List of hotels in Lagos and agree that should be a separate AfD.--
Rpclod (
talk) 18:55, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Port Harcourt - per nom; the Lagos one probably needs to be done in a separate AfD to avoid confusion; they're two very different articles in terms of quality and notability claims
Spiderone 19:49, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
What's the confusion? Both articles are similar in nature and nominated for the exact same reasons.
Ajf773 (
talk) 23:21, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
It could be argued as being navigational. I would personally say weak delete for Lagos as it's not inherently notable and I can't find any evidence of LISTN or GNG. It is, however, different to the Harcourt list because the Harcourt list only has one notable hotel whereas Lagos at least just lists notable hotels.
Spiderone 19:07, 29 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment This should be done on two different templates as persons might want to vote keep for one and delete for the other
Mahveotm (
talk) 18:48, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Two templates are not required. These two were bundled into one AFD because they are both similar in purpose and nominated for the exact same reasons.
Ajf773 (
talk) 17:53, 4 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep I vote to keep the article about Lagos and delete or improve tremendously the article about Port Harcourt.
Mahveotm (
talk) 18:49, 2 December 2016 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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