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The result was keep. ( WP:SNOW). Per some of the commentary herein, discussion about a potential redirect can continue on an article talk page if desired. NorthAmerica 1000 05:49, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
List of football clubs in the Isle of Man
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Unsourced and already catered for by the category - Football clubs in Isle of Man Kivo ( talk) 16:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
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- First, "unsourced" is not a deletion rationale so long as the content is verifiable. What sourcing could this possibly require? That these are football clubs in the Isle of Man? That's the only fact asserted here. All the listed clubs have articles, and so if they are individually notable then there will necessarily be multiple sources covering each of them, and every source that even mentions any such club is going to verify the basic fact of what it is. Second, as WP:CLN makes clear, the existence of a category is not a reason for deleting a corresponding list. So unless you can present a valid reason for deletion, please withdraw your nomination so as to not waste any further time. postdlf ( talk) 17:27, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - This is a valid list. The Isle of Man is a separate entity outside the United Kingdom, so its clubs couldn't be listed anywhere else, and the list provides far more info than the category is capable of doing. – Pee Jay 17:38, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep A list of notable clubs with clear inclusion criteria. The "already catered for by the category" statement fails WP:CLN. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep as above, a valid list. At a push I would say redirect to Isle of Man Football Association. Giant Snowman 18:34, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - per above , a perfectly valid list. Fenix down ( talk) 19:01, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - I admit it could do with some sourcing and more info but AFD isn't for clean-up purposes..... and I'm assuming the nom haden't bothered finding sources ..... Anyway WP:SOFIXIT applies – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 01:17, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - all the clubs listed play in the Isle of Man Football League. Are there any clubs on the island that play in any other league? If not, surely we could just redirect to the article on the league.....? -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 08:25, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Per the above arguments. IJA ( talk) 13:50, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- Redirect: To the Isle of Man Football League. All the clubs are the same anyway, no point of two separate articles. -- ArsenalFan700 ( talk) 20:56, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with above arguments. Also, it might be information available at the parent article but we should be striving for here is an example of what a list can turn into with some love. Cptnono ( talk) 03:08, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was keep. ( WP:SNOW). Per some of the commentary herein, discussion about a potential redirect can continue on an article talk page if desired. NorthAmerica 1000 05:49, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
List of football clubs in the Isle of Man
- List of football clubs in the Isle of Man ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Unsourced and already catered for by the category - Football clubs in Isle of Man Kivo ( talk) 16:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:17, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:17, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:17, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:17, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- First, "unsourced" is not a deletion rationale so long as the content is verifiable. What sourcing could this possibly require? That these are football clubs in the Isle of Man? That's the only fact asserted here. All the listed clubs have articles, and so if they are individually notable then there will necessarily be multiple sources covering each of them, and every source that even mentions any such club is going to verify the basic fact of what it is. Second, as WP:CLN makes clear, the existence of a category is not a reason for deleting a corresponding list. So unless you can present a valid reason for deletion, please withdraw your nomination so as to not waste any further time. postdlf ( talk) 17:27, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - This is a valid list. The Isle of Man is a separate entity outside the United Kingdom, so its clubs couldn't be listed anywhere else, and the list provides far more info than the category is capable of doing. – Pee Jay 17:38, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep A list of notable clubs with clear inclusion criteria. The "already catered for by the category" statement fails WP:CLN. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep as above, a valid list. At a push I would say redirect to Isle of Man Football Association. Giant Snowman 18:34, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - per above , a perfectly valid list. Fenix down ( talk) 19:01, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - I admit it could do with some sourcing and more info but AFD isn't for clean-up purposes..... and I'm assuming the nom haden't bothered finding sources ..... Anyway WP:SOFIXIT applies – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 01:17, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - all the clubs listed play in the Isle of Man Football League. Are there any clubs on the island that play in any other league? If not, surely we could just redirect to the article on the league.....? -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 08:25, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Per the above arguments. IJA ( talk) 13:50, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- Redirect: To the Isle of Man Football League. All the clubs are the same anyway, no point of two separate articles. -- ArsenalFan700 ( talk) 20:56, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with above arguments. Also, it might be information available at the parent article but we should be striving for here is an example of what a list can turn into with some love. Cptnono ( talk) 03:08, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
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