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The result was delete. Sandstein 15:48, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
List of cricket batting averages
- List of cricket batting averages ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Delete. A list like this will not be maintained long-term. I notice the "current" stats have not recently been updated. Fails WP:NOTSTATS, WP:NOTMIRROR and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Anyone wanting to see a list of these averages is better referred to one of the two main specialist sites that publish cricket statistics or, better still, to the latest Wisden or Playfair. Jack | talk page 13:53, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
I am also nominating the following related pages because the same problems arise:
List of List A cricket records ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
No maintenance or update. Fails same criteria.
Jack |
talk page 14:46, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - just seems like a massive and overly vague topic to be considered notable. JMWt ( talk) 16:22, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep to List of List A cricket records - Which section here isn't up to date? As you will see looking at the page history, I update this article regularly, as do others. If a section has a date last updated of over a year it is likely because no one has entered the top 10 or the top 10 hasn't changed. Jevansen ( talk) 00:15, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Also, given that the deletion rationale doesn't apply to the above list and it has no connection to
List of cricket batting averages other than being another cricket related list, can you please make this a separate nomination like you have with the others?
Jevansen (
talk) 00:36, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, I think I was mistaken to include List of List A cricket records so I'll request its withdrawal. Thanks. Jack | talk page 06:53, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Also, given that the deletion rationale doesn't apply to the above list and it has no connection to
List of cricket batting averages other than being another cricket related list, can you please make this a separate nomination like you have with the others?
Jevansen (
talk) 00:36, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Withdrawn request. Please reinstate List of List A cricket records as it does not merit AfD. Thank you. Jack | talk page 06:53, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTSTATS. As Jack noted, these sorts of lists are never updated to the standard they should be. Wikipedia doesn't need to be a (poor-quality) duplicate of other websites. IgnorantArmies (talk) 07:16, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete the list of batting averages one. Impossible to keep up to date reasonably for starters, but more pertinently it's just stats. A summary of key examples could be used on the page about batting averages. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 21:14, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep. If, as Jevansen says, there are people out there maintaining this, then it seems a reasonably important list to have, although its title really ought to include the words "Test", "LOI" and "T20I", and perhaps the word "highest" would be useful. With all these lists, my view is that if it doesn't do any harm, is well-maintained and answers a question about cricket that someone might reasonably ask, then I see no need to delete. Not every user of WP can wander into their local bookstore to locate a copy of Wisden or Playfair. Johnlp ( talk) 09:42, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 06:17, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 13:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 13:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Unnecessary article. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 15:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- Delete The editors responsible cant't even be bothered to find out who has the 10th best T20I average among retired players. It is just a copy of 3 pages on ESPNcricinfo
WP:NOTMIRROR
Spike 'em (
talk) 15:54, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- And looking into who was 10th, I realise all has been done is the move of 1 column in the cricinfo list. I can see no rationale about who appears on the retired list other than they haven't played for a year or 2. Have Cameron White and Misbah-ul-Haq really retired from this form of cricket, or just aren't being picked anymore. I've also gone and added Ravi Bopara, though I don't think he has retired either. Spike 'em ( talk) 16:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTSTATS and WP:NOTMIRROR and also unlikely to be continuously up to date. Ajf773 ( talk) 17:46, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
Keep as per Jevansen. GreenCricket (talk) 13:20, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Sandstein 15:48, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
List of cricket batting averages
- List of cricket batting averages ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Delete. A list like this will not be maintained long-term. I notice the "current" stats have not recently been updated. Fails WP:NOTSTATS, WP:NOTMIRROR and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Anyone wanting to see a list of these averages is better referred to one of the two main specialist sites that publish cricket statistics or, better still, to the latest Wisden or Playfair. Jack | talk page 13:53, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
I am also nominating the following related pages because the same problems arise:
List of List A cricket records ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
No maintenance or update. Fails same criteria.
Jack |
talk page 14:46, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - just seems like a massive and overly vague topic to be considered notable. JMWt ( talk) 16:22, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep to List of List A cricket records - Which section here isn't up to date? As you will see looking at the page history, I update this article regularly, as do others. If a section has a date last updated of over a year it is likely because no one has entered the top 10 or the top 10 hasn't changed. Jevansen ( talk) 00:15, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Also, given that the deletion rationale doesn't apply to the above list and it has no connection to
List of cricket batting averages other than being another cricket related list, can you please make this a separate nomination like you have with the others?
Jevansen (
talk) 00:36, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, I think I was mistaken to include List of List A cricket records so I'll request its withdrawal. Thanks. Jack | talk page 06:53, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Also, given that the deletion rationale doesn't apply to the above list and it has no connection to
List of cricket batting averages other than being another cricket related list, can you please make this a separate nomination like you have with the others?
Jevansen (
talk) 00:36, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Withdrawn request. Please reinstate List of List A cricket records as it does not merit AfD. Thank you. Jack | talk page 06:53, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTSTATS. As Jack noted, these sorts of lists are never updated to the standard they should be. Wikipedia doesn't need to be a (poor-quality) duplicate of other websites. IgnorantArmies (talk) 07:16, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete the list of batting averages one. Impossible to keep up to date reasonably for starters, but more pertinently it's just stats. A summary of key examples could be used on the page about batting averages. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 21:14, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep. If, as Jevansen says, there are people out there maintaining this, then it seems a reasonably important list to have, although its title really ought to include the words "Test", "LOI" and "T20I", and perhaps the word "highest" would be useful. With all these lists, my view is that if it doesn't do any harm, is well-maintained and answers a question about cricket that someone might reasonably ask, then I see no need to delete. Not every user of WP can wander into their local bookstore to locate a copy of Wisden or Playfair. Johnlp ( talk) 09:42, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 06:17, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 06:17, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 13:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 13:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Unnecessary article. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 15:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- Delete The editors responsible cant't even be bothered to find out who has the 10th best T20I average among retired players. It is just a copy of 3 pages on ESPNcricinfo
WP:NOTMIRROR
Spike 'em (
talk) 15:54, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- And looking into who was 10th, I realise all has been done is the move of 1 column in the cricinfo list. I can see no rationale about who appears on the retired list other than they haven't played for a year or 2. Have Cameron White and Misbah-ul-Haq really retired from this form of cricket, or just aren't being picked anymore. I've also gone and added Ravi Bopara, though I don't think he has retired either. Spike 'em ( talk) 16:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTSTATS and WP:NOTMIRROR and also unlikely to be continuously up to date. Ajf773 ( talk) 17:46, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
Keep as per Jevansen. GreenCricket (talk) 13:20, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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