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The result was redirect to Parishes and dependencies of Antigua and Barbuda. Liz Read! Talk! 20:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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No reason to have a separate list from Parishes and dependencies of Antigua and Barbuda, where these seven are listed as well. These "capitals", apart from the real capital Saint John, are very small villages and don't seem to get special attention as a group apart from their role in the parishes, which is treated at the other article. I redirected it but was reverted. The minimal extra information here can easily be merged into the other article if necessary and sourced, and if the sources then work (many of the ethnicity pdfs don't load in either the original or the archived form, and I don't see where e.g. the "foreign born" percentages come from, the census document only gives these figures per parish) Fram ( talk) 08:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists and Antigua and Barbuda. Fram ( talk) 08:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Parishes and dependencies of Antigua and Barbuda with the history intact so that sourced information can be merged if desired. There is no need to cover these details in two articles rather than one.
Eluchil404 (
talk)
23:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I fail to see how this situation is different from any other list of capitals of country subdivisions. CROIX talk 13:45, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 10:23, 20 February 2024 (UTC)- I have spoken to the Statistics Division to fix the demographics links. All the other sources appear to be intact and prove that these are in fact parish capitals. CROIX talk 13:42, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex ( talk) 18:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect - seems to pass NLIST, but my preference would be to keep. The foreign born issue can be solved through editing.
SportingFlyer
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C
23:45, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- What does it add that can't be (or isn't already) covered in the proposed target article? Duplicating information just because NLIST doesn't specifically disallow it (and NLIST doesn't disallow anything it seems) seems like a bad idea.
Fram (
talk)
08:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Then there should have been a merge discussion. There's no information in this article that needs to be deleted apart from maybe the foreign born percentages. But I don't think it's as duplicative as you're arguing. SportingFlyer T· C 23:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- What does it add that can't be (or isn't already) covered in the proposed target article? Duplicating information just because NLIST doesn't specifically disallow it (and NLIST doesn't disallow anything it seems) seems like a bad idea.
Fram (
talk)
08:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect or merge The main article already lists all the capitals, and the population could be added there. Reywas92 Talk 14:14, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 22:09, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Parishes and dependencies of Antigua and Barbuda. Liz Read! Talk! 20:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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- List of capitals in Antigua and Barbuda ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
No reason to have a separate list from Parishes and dependencies of Antigua and Barbuda, where these seven are listed as well. These "capitals", apart from the real capital Saint John, are very small villages and don't seem to get special attention as a group apart from their role in the parishes, which is treated at the other article. I redirected it but was reverted. The minimal extra information here can easily be merged into the other article if necessary and sourced, and if the sources then work (many of the ethnicity pdfs don't load in either the original or the archived form, and I don't see where e.g. the "foreign born" percentages come from, the census document only gives these figures per parish) Fram ( talk) 08:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists and Antigua and Barbuda. Fram ( talk) 08:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Parishes and dependencies of Antigua and Barbuda with the history intact so that sourced information can be merged if desired. There is no need to cover these details in two articles rather than one.
Eluchil404 (
talk)
23:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I fail to see how this situation is different from any other list of capitals of country subdivisions. CROIX talk 13:45, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 10:23, 20 February 2024 (UTC)- I have spoken to the Statistics Division to fix the demographics links. All the other sources appear to be intact and prove that these are in fact parish capitals. CROIX talk 13:42, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex ( talk) 18:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect - seems to pass NLIST, but my preference would be to keep. The foreign born issue can be solved through editing.
SportingFlyer
T·
C
23:45, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- What does it add that can't be (or isn't already) covered in the proposed target article? Duplicating information just because NLIST doesn't specifically disallow it (and NLIST doesn't disallow anything it seems) seems like a bad idea.
Fram (
talk)
08:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Then there should have been a merge discussion. There's no information in this article that needs to be deleted apart from maybe the foreign born percentages. But I don't think it's as duplicative as you're arguing. SportingFlyer T· C 23:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- What does it add that can't be (or isn't already) covered in the proposed target article? Duplicating information just because NLIST doesn't specifically disallow it (and NLIST doesn't disallow anything it seems) seems like a bad idea.
Fram (
talk)
08:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect or merge The main article already lists all the capitals, and the population could be added there. Reywas92 Talk 14:14, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 22:09, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.