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The result was Snow keep. There is no reasonable prospect that this nomination will result in deletion. bd2412 T 02:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
List of breakfast cereals
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Another indiscriminate list. Also serves as a directory. I think this list is also as indescrimate as the other two breakfast articles that is up for deletion ie Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast drinks (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast foods . Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:13, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment 1: Article never said notable when I nominated it (diff). It was only added AFTER (diff) -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
List of breakfast related item deletions:
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast foods
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast drinks (2nd nomination)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Index of breakfast-related articles
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast cereals
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:13, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:13, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:13, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
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Courtesy ping to @ FeydHuxtable, Andrew Davidson, Northamerica1000, Rhododendrites, Ritchie333, Hijiri88, Spshu, SilkTork, Newslinger, AmericanAir88, Roxy the dog, Ajf773, JohnBlackburne, Dorsetonian, Shadowowl, The Gnome, Lyndaship, Bearian, Reywas92, Alpha3031, Power~enwiki, El cid, el campeador, XOR'easter, and DexterPointy: -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:15, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per
WP:NOTDUP relative to
Category:Breakfast cereals and its subcategories, "overlapping categories, lists and navigation templates are not considered duplicative". It's also a functional navigational aid as per
WP:LISTPURP, as evidenced in part by the
82,471 page views it has received in the last ninety days. Conversely, the main category page has only received
976 page views in the last ninety days. Deletion of the article would not serve Wikipedia's readers in any positive manner, and would only make information more difficult for readers to find.
North America
1000
19:17, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Well then link to the category. I don't see why we need a list for it. Also, I think this is also as indescrimate as the other two breakfast articles that is up for deletion ie Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast drinks (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast foods . -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:22, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per the above !vote. This is an example of how a list article can provide information above and beyond the corresponding category. There is a pretty clear criterion for whether any given entry qualifies, so the list is not indiscriminate. Nor does the "directory" charge really amount to a reason for deletion (for example, this page doesn't provide pricing information). XOR'easter ( talk) 19:24, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. As long as there are inclusion criteria to restrict the list to notable cereals, this is neither indiscriminate nor is it a directory. This is a perfectly good list article. --
Michig (
talk)
19:39, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- It never said notable when I nominated it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_breakfast_cereals&oldid=852548399 --
Tyw7 (
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19:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- That's completely irrelevant. You're just wasting everyone's time. postdlf ( talk) 21:00, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- It never said notable when I nominated it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_breakfast_cereals&oldid=852548399 --
Tyw7 (
🗣️ Talk •
✍️ Contributions) Please
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19:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per above,
breakfast cereals are indisputably a thing, we have articles on many, and this list therefore easily passes
WP:LISTPURP and
WP:NOTDUP. This nominator's clearly on auto-pilot, and has demonstrated here and elsewhere at AFD recently that they do not understand applicable guidelines and policies, nor the specific content at hand.
postdlf (
talk)
19:50, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- When I nominated it it just say list of cereal ( nomination version). Therefore it fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:57, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Unlike the more nebulous definitions of breakfast foods and drinks, cereals are well-defined and advertised/marketed (and therefore easily sourceable) as such, so not indiscriminate. I don't know if we really need all the articleless flavor variations, however. Clarityfiend ( talk) 20:37, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per above. This is a list of a type of breakfast food. This food is for breakfast and gives readers a world view of cereals available. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 21:17, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - although the article should keep to its inclusion criteria of notable breakfast cereals, pruning the list accordingly. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 22:12, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep per Clarityfiend; these en-masse nominations (and pings) are beginning to be disruptive and I urge Tyw7 to stop making them. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 00:13, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- The pings were copied from the other two articles. I thought it was a good way of informing participants of this related AFD. And en masse? I only nominated two articles today. And one over a few week ago (the breakfast drink one). Anyway if the pings annoys anyone, I'm sorry. -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 00:17, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Snow Keep—Inclusion criteria are much better defined than the other nominations. There is no reason to delete it.— Alpha3031 ( talk | contribs) 13:11, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. This is wasting people's time. User:Tyw7, please wait until the results of existing breakfast related AFDs before nominating any more. SilkTork ( talk) 17:24, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Snow Keep clearly notable. Lepricavark ( talk) 17:44, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
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The result was Snow keep. There is no reasonable prospect that this nomination will result in deletion. bd2412 T 02:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
List of breakfast cereals
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Another indiscriminate list. Also serves as a directory. I think this list is also as indescrimate as the other two breakfast articles that is up for deletion ie Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast drinks (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast foods . Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:13, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment 1: Article never said notable when I nominated it (diff). It was only added AFTER (diff) -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
List of breakfast related item deletions:
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast foods
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast drinks (2nd nomination)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Index of breakfast-related articles
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast cereals
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:13, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:13, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:13, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:13, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Courtesy ping to @ FeydHuxtable, Andrew Davidson, Northamerica1000, Rhododendrites, Ritchie333, Hijiri88, Spshu, SilkTork, Newslinger, AmericanAir88, Roxy the dog, Ajf773, JohnBlackburne, Dorsetonian, Shadowowl, The Gnome, Lyndaship, Bearian, Reywas92, Alpha3031, Power~enwiki, El cid, el campeador, XOR'easter, and DexterPointy: -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:15, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per
WP:NOTDUP relative to
Category:Breakfast cereals and its subcategories, "overlapping categories, lists and navigation templates are not considered duplicative". It's also a functional navigational aid as per
WP:LISTPURP, as evidenced in part by the
82,471 page views it has received in the last ninety days. Conversely, the main category page has only received
976 page views in the last ninety days. Deletion of the article would not serve Wikipedia's readers in any positive manner, and would only make information more difficult for readers to find.
North America
1000
19:17, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Well then link to the category. I don't see why we need a list for it. Also, I think this is also as indescrimate as the other two breakfast articles that is up for deletion ie Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast drinks (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast foods . -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:22, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per the above !vote. This is an example of how a list article can provide information above and beyond the corresponding category. There is a pretty clear criterion for whether any given entry qualifies, so the list is not indiscriminate. Nor does the "directory" charge really amount to a reason for deletion (for example, this page doesn't provide pricing information). XOR'easter ( talk) 19:24, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. As long as there are inclusion criteria to restrict the list to notable cereals, this is neither indiscriminate nor is it a directory. This is a perfectly good list article. --
Michig (
talk)
19:39, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- It never said notable when I nominated it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_breakfast_cereals&oldid=852548399 --
Tyw7 (
🗣️ Talk •
✍️ Contributions) Please
ping me if you had replied
19:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- That's completely irrelevant. You're just wasting everyone's time. postdlf ( talk) 21:00, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- It never said notable when I nominated it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_breakfast_cereals&oldid=852548399 --
Tyw7 (
🗣️ Talk •
✍️ Contributions) Please
ping me if you had replied
19:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per above,
breakfast cereals are indisputably a thing, we have articles on many, and this list therefore easily passes
WP:LISTPURP and
WP:NOTDUP. This nominator's clearly on auto-pilot, and has demonstrated here and elsewhere at AFD recently that they do not understand applicable guidelines and policies, nor the specific content at hand.
postdlf (
talk)
19:50, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- When I nominated it it just say list of cereal ( nomination version). Therefore it fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 19:57, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Unlike the more nebulous definitions of breakfast foods and drinks, cereals are well-defined and advertised/marketed (and therefore easily sourceable) as such, so not indiscriminate. I don't know if we really need all the articleless flavor variations, however. Clarityfiend ( talk) 20:37, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per above. This is a list of a type of breakfast food. This food is for breakfast and gives readers a world view of cereals available. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 21:17, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - although the article should keep to its inclusion criteria of notable breakfast cereals, pruning the list accordingly. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 22:12, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep per Clarityfiend; these en-masse nominations (and pings) are beginning to be disruptive and I urge Tyw7 to stop making them. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 00:13, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- The pings were copied from the other two articles. I thought it was a good way of informing participants of this related AFD. And en masse? I only nominated two articles today. And one over a few week ago (the breakfast drink one). Anyway if the pings annoys anyone, I'm sorry. -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 00:17, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Snow Keep—Inclusion criteria are much better defined than the other nominations. There is no reason to delete it.— Alpha3031 ( talk | contribs) 13:11, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. This is wasting people's time. User:Tyw7, please wait until the results of existing breakfast related AFDs before nominating any more. SilkTork ( talk) 17:24, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Snow Keep clearly notable. Lepricavark ( talk) 17:44, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.