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The result was no consensus. I don't think there's going to be any agreement on this, after several resists some think the article should be kept, others think it should be deleted. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:10, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
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- List of adult television channels ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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No sources indicated as it fail WP:GNG, WP:INDISCRIMINATE, and WP:LISTCRUFT. MirrorPlanet ( talk) 04:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Television pornography exist. Are these paid for television channels that have only pornography, or would it include movie channels that show R rated films that have sex and nudity in them?
Dream Focus
11:13, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
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Dream Focus: Its still unsourced, no reliable sources are found, also that contains
original research.
MirrorPlanet (
talk)
12:10, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- You can do a news search for the names of any of the channels and the word "pornography". Also since its a navigation list, not needed to reference things that are referenced in the articles linked to or common sense. The first entry is AOV Adult Movie Channel, so that's in the actual name. But search for it with the word "pornography" and you find coverage easily. [1] Dream Focus 12:40, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
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Dream Focus: Its still unsourced, no reliable sources are found, also that contains
original research.
MirrorPlanet (
talk)
12:10, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep. How can things be categorized unless they have some citeable qualification making them worthy of the list? Hyperbolick ( talk) 06:56, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete With the wind-down of pay-per-view on cable/satellite, many of these networks are defunct and no longer active, and I wish you (and your anti-virus program) good luck trying to find sources for all of these; most of the properties have long transferred to the Internet. This is a declining list better as a category. Nate • ( chatter) 19:59, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:30, 23 October 2023 (UTC)- Keep. List serve a useful purpose to me and other encyclopedia users. बिनोद थारू ( talk) 05:12, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 11:40, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete – I agree that the list would be better as a category. The already existing
Category:Television pornography seems like it already duplicates most of the entries – I'd be all for categorizing each entry in the current list that isn't already in the category under it.
Tollens (
talk)
10:43, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- This list article would not fit in there Category:Lists_of_television_channels_by_content instead?
- A improvement to make it match other article like
List of documentary television channels would just be to add a short description beside each channel and make everything into a table.
बिनोद थारू (
talk)
22:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- That would be perfectly fine – it's simply that a list of links is exactly what a category is for. If you'd like to expand the article with additional information, by all means go ahead. Tollens ( talk) 04:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. A category and a list on one given subject matter are partially, not exactly, the same. Not only does the category here duplicates only most of the entries (i.e. not all), but the list allows to organise links in sections, add sources and comments, which seems indeed necessary for the page. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:59, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. I don't think there's going to be any agreement on this, after several resists some think the article should be kept, others think it should be deleted. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:10, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
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- List of adult television channels ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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No sources indicated as it fail WP:GNG, WP:INDISCRIMINATE, and WP:LISTCRUFT. MirrorPlanet ( talk) 04:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Arts, Television, and Entertainment. MirrorPlanet ( talk) 04:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sexuality and gender and Lists. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:41, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment
Category:Television pornography exist. Are these paid for television channels that have only pornography, or would it include movie channels that show R rated films that have sex and nudity in them?
Dream Focus
11:13, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Dream Focus: Its still unsourced, no reliable sources are found, also that contains
original research.
MirrorPlanet (
talk)
12:10, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- You can do a news search for the names of any of the channels and the word "pornography". Also since its a navigation list, not needed to reference things that are referenced in the articles linked to or common sense. The first entry is AOV Adult Movie Channel, so that's in the actual name. But search for it with the word "pornography" and you find coverage easily. [1] Dream Focus 12:40, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Dream Focus: Its still unsourced, no reliable sources are found, also that contains
original research.
MirrorPlanet (
talk)
12:10, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:31, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. How can things be categorized unless they have some citeable qualification making them worthy of the list? Hyperbolick ( talk) 06:56, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete With the wind-down of pay-per-view on cable/satellite, many of these networks are defunct and no longer active, and I wish you (and your anti-virus program) good luck trying to find sources for all of these; most of the properties have long transferred to the Internet. This is a declining list better as a category. Nate • ( chatter) 19:59, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:30, 23 October 2023 (UTC)- Keep. List serve a useful purpose to me and other encyclopedia users. बिनोद थारू ( talk) 05:12, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 11:40, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete – I agree that the list would be better as a category. The already existing
Category:Television pornography seems like it already duplicates most of the entries – I'd be all for categorizing each entry in the current list that isn't already in the category under it.
Tollens (
talk)
10:43, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- This list article would not fit in there Category:Lists_of_television_channels_by_content instead?
- A improvement to make it match other article like
List of documentary television channels would just be to add a short description beside each channel and make everything into a table.
बिनोद थारू (
talk)
22:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- That would be perfectly fine – it's simply that a list of links is exactly what a category is for. If you'd like to expand the article with additional information, by all means go ahead. Tollens ( talk) 04:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. A category and a list on one given subject matter are partially, not exactly, the same. Not only does the category here duplicates only most of the entries (i.e. not all), but the list allows to organise links in sections, add sources and comments, which seems indeed necessary for the page. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:59, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
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