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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of
WP:INDISCRIMINATEWP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing
WP:LISTN. Additionally
WP:NOTDATABASE and
WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per
WP:RS, 506sports is a forum and the ESPN now redirects to the main page, neither doing anything to establish notability.
SpacedFarmer (
talk) 21:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete Merge to
College Basketball on ABC: Subject does not meet the
WP:LISTN since as the nom notes as the individuals listed here are not covered as a group in secondary sources. A
WP:BEFORE check didn't come up with any sources to improve the article. Edit: Changing my vote to merge as a
WP:ATD.
Let'srun (
talk) 22:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep: Sources are being added to this particular article at this very moment to further strengthen its notability. This is a work in progress of course, but at the very least, take into consideration, merging the this article with the main College Basketball on ABC article as a secondary option instead of out and out junking it.
BornonJune8 (
talk) 12:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Since this particular AFD was put into place, over 20 sources have been added. Of course, there could and should be more, but naturally, 20 is a huge leap and jump from the five that was initially there.
BornonJune8 (
talk) 09:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I appreciate the addition of some reliable sourcing though I still feel as a list, it is not covered under
WP:LISTN.
Conyo14 (
talk) 23:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 21:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge. A few things here: I want to quickly address some of the arguments presented by the nominator.
WP:NOTTVGUIDE is a policy that relates to current and upcoming events/programming, so I wouldn't really consider this to be applicable here as it is a combination of past and present television personalities. From a spot check of individuals on the list, standalone articles about the subjects included on this list are notable and meet
WP:NBIO. Of course, this does not inherently make the list itself notable, especially one that is standalone. Lists (not necessarily standalone) of this type have held water before (quick examples would include
NBC evening news anchors and
ABC evening news anchors) with the same rationale that we tend retain lists of notable persons that have a notable trait in common. This goes beyond being simply an
indiscriminatedatabase, but is a significant compilation of an important aspect of the underlying subject, in this case, the television program College Basketball on ABC. As a result, deletion altogether would be a disservice the extent of knowledge one can gain regarding the television program. Regardless of the numerous sources added since time of nomination, I concur with the nominator that this article fails to meet the criteria of
WP:NLIST for a standalone list. To retain the inline citations, per
WP:AOAL, combined with the above, merging this list as suggested by
Conyo14 (
talk·contribs) seems be the best course of action.
Bgv. (
talk) 02:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Keep, Delete or Merge? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 23:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment Changed my vote to merge per the previous comment.
Let'srun (
talk) 19:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of
WP:INDISCRIMINATEWP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing
WP:LISTN. Additionally
WP:NOTDATABASE and
WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per
WP:RS, 506sports is a forum and the ESPN now redirects to the main page, neither doing anything to establish notability.
SpacedFarmer (
talk) 21:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete Merge to
College Basketball on ABC: Subject does not meet the
WP:LISTN since as the nom notes as the individuals listed here are not covered as a group in secondary sources. A
WP:BEFORE check didn't come up with any sources to improve the article. Edit: Changing my vote to merge as a
WP:ATD.
Let'srun (
talk) 22:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep: Sources are being added to this particular article at this very moment to further strengthen its notability. This is a work in progress of course, but at the very least, take into consideration, merging the this article with the main College Basketball on ABC article as a secondary option instead of out and out junking it.
BornonJune8 (
talk) 12:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Since this particular AFD was put into place, over 20 sources have been added. Of course, there could and should be more, but naturally, 20 is a huge leap and jump from the five that was initially there.
BornonJune8 (
talk) 09:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I appreciate the addition of some reliable sourcing though I still feel as a list, it is not covered under
WP:LISTN.
Conyo14 (
talk) 23:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 21:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge. A few things here: I want to quickly address some of the arguments presented by the nominator.
WP:NOTTVGUIDE is a policy that relates to current and upcoming events/programming, so I wouldn't really consider this to be applicable here as it is a combination of past and present television personalities. From a spot check of individuals on the list, standalone articles about the subjects included on this list are notable and meet
WP:NBIO. Of course, this does not inherently make the list itself notable, especially one that is standalone. Lists (not necessarily standalone) of this type have held water before (quick examples would include
NBC evening news anchors and
ABC evening news anchors) with the same rationale that we tend retain lists of notable persons that have a notable trait in common. This goes beyond being simply an
indiscriminatedatabase, but is a significant compilation of an important aspect of the underlying subject, in this case, the television program College Basketball on ABC. As a result, deletion altogether would be a disservice the extent of knowledge one can gain regarding the television program. Regardless of the numerous sources added since time of nomination, I concur with the nominator that this article fails to meet the criteria of
WP:NLIST for a standalone list. To retain the inline citations, per
WP:AOAL, combined with the above, merging this list as suggested by
Conyo14 (
talk·contribs) seems be the best course of action.
Bgv. (
talk) 02:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Keep, Delete or Merge? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 23:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment Changed my vote to merge per the previous comment.
Let'srun (
talk) 19:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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