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The result was delete. Consensus is for deletion of all nominated articles. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 00:34, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
List of Big Brother (British series 19) housemates
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I'm nominating the lists of Big Brother housemates for deletion or merger, seasons 1–5, 7–9, and 11–19.* The people listed in these articles are nearly all non-notable on their own and thereby fail the criteria laid out at WP:LISTPEOPLE. Moreover, these lists do not fall under the exceptions listed there, which state that "In a few cases, such as lists of board members or academics holding notable positions, the names of non-notable people may be included in a list that is largely made up of notable people, for the sake of completeness." (My emphasis.) There may be content that can be merged into the individual season articles or the main list of housemates. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:41, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- * Season six has been separately nominated alone by another user, and season ten is a redirect.
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 08:35, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete all for the same reasons under Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Big Brother (British series 6) housemates. Ajf773 ( talk) 08:39, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete without merge and use the existing article. Similar situation to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Apprentice candidates (British series 1) so I'll just copy my response form there. The additional details on each person is their personal bio unrelated to the show. If these people are notable, they have an article which covers it and this is a WP:CONTENTFORK, if they don't have an article, they aren't notable and this info is just not needed. Anything specific to the show can be added, but should be limited to 1-2 sentences, similar to how non-reality TV shows or films summarize a character. There is definitely no need for any "play-by-play" re-cap of what he did on the show. -- Gonnym ( talk) 09:21, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all for reasons already adequately given. RobinCarmody ( talk) 18:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per all the above. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:29, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: If this passes, this process should really be seen through as there are more articles at Category:Lists of reality show participants. -- Gonnym ( talk) 20:03, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural Comment Based on the current consensus I was prepared to close this as a delete, before noticing that it is supposed to cover all 19 series' articles, not just this one. I'm not sure how that should be handled: Some of the earlier series, I happen to know, were much, much higher profile in the UK and it's entirely possible some would argue that some series warrant this article, and others do not. The question therefore is, would it be good procedure to delete all of those articles on the back of this debate? It doesn't help that the AFD title doesn't follow the convention for listing multiple articles, nor does it have a bullet list of the articles. I'd argue this debate should only apply to the series 19 article, and that an additional AFD should be created with better process for the rest.
KaisaL (
talk) 08:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- No need for WP:BUREAUCRACY. The nom has correctly tagged all articles as can be seen in List of Big Brother (British series 12) housemates, has clearly stated that this nomination is for the entire set and people in this discussion have clearly stated that they understand that it's for the entire set. See Ajf773's and RobinCarmody "delete all" vote. Any other resolution to this discussion is a clear violation of AfD and the consensus here. -- Gonnym ( talk) 08:50, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin: Do not delete the redirects. ミラ P 15:03, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Consensus is for deletion of all nominated articles. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 00:34, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
List of Big Brother (British series 19) housemates
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I'm nominating the lists of Big Brother housemates for deletion or merger, seasons 1–5, 7–9, and 11–19.* The people listed in these articles are nearly all non-notable on their own and thereby fail the criteria laid out at WP:LISTPEOPLE. Moreover, these lists do not fall under the exceptions listed there, which state that "In a few cases, such as lists of board members or academics holding notable positions, the names of non-notable people may be included in a list that is largely made up of notable people, for the sake of completeness." (My emphasis.) There may be content that can be merged into the individual season articles or the main list of housemates. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:41, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- * Season six has been separately nominated alone by another user, and season ten is a redirect.
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 08:35, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 08:36, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 08:36, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all for the same reasons under Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Big Brother (British series 6) housemates. Ajf773 ( talk) 08:39, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete without merge and use the existing article. Similar situation to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Apprentice candidates (British series 1) so I'll just copy my response form there. The additional details on each person is their personal bio unrelated to the show. If these people are notable, they have an article which covers it and this is a WP:CONTENTFORK, if they don't have an article, they aren't notable and this info is just not needed. Anything specific to the show can be added, but should be limited to 1-2 sentences, similar to how non-reality TV shows or films summarize a character. There is definitely no need for any "play-by-play" re-cap of what he did on the show. -- Gonnym ( talk) 09:21, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all for reasons already adequately given. RobinCarmody ( talk) 18:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per all the above. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:29, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: If this passes, this process should really be seen through as there are more articles at Category:Lists of reality show participants. -- Gonnym ( talk) 20:03, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural Comment Based on the current consensus I was prepared to close this as a delete, before noticing that it is supposed to cover all 19 series' articles, not just this one. I'm not sure how that should be handled: Some of the earlier series, I happen to know, were much, much higher profile in the UK and it's entirely possible some would argue that some series warrant this article, and others do not. The question therefore is, would it be good procedure to delete all of those articles on the back of this debate? It doesn't help that the AFD title doesn't follow the convention for listing multiple articles, nor does it have a bullet list of the articles. I'd argue this debate should only apply to the series 19 article, and that an additional AFD should be created with better process for the rest.
KaisaL (
talk) 08:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- No need for WP:BUREAUCRACY. The nom has correctly tagged all articles as can be seen in List of Big Brother (British series 12) housemates, has clearly stated that this nomination is for the entire set and people in this discussion have clearly stated that they understand that it's for the entire set. See Ajf773's and RobinCarmody "delete all" vote. Any other resolution to this discussion is a clear violation of AfD and the consensus here. -- Gonnym ( talk) 08:50, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin: Do not delete the redirects. ミラ P 15:03, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.