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History of Albania. This looks like a POV fork. I find it interesting how North Macedonia is called "the present Albanian political entity". Guided by that logic, Montenegro should also be an Albanian political entity. In principle, I think redirection would be a good solution. --
Aca (
talk)
12:01, 12 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep -- This is appropriate to keep: this is a list article. This should not need sources, as these will be in the articles listed. The function of articles of this kind is to serve as an index, which it potentially does well. It is certainly not ideal as some of the content is rulers rather than regions. I see little evidence of COATRACK. It id certainly a fork, but not a POVFORK. If there is anything in it that is POV, the solution is to edit not delete; or redirect, which is equally destructiuve.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
19:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)reply
There was a similar situation regarding the "List of Serb countries and regions" article, both of these articles serve (and served) the purpose of nationalist POV. Even though it is a list, it is completely unsourced. --
Vacant0 (
talk)
15:10, 14 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete as I believe a precedent has now been set with the Serb page. This should also probably be applied to the numerous other similar list articles.
Vladimir.copic (
talk)
22:21, 14 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete - the assertion from
Vladimir.copic above is that a
community consensus has been established with regard to this particular type of article. Content notwithstanding, I see no reason presented as to why that consensus shouldn't prevail. A list that serves its stated purpose can always be proposed for creation. St★lwart11102:36, 16 August 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Redirect to
History of Albania. This looks like a POV fork. I find it interesting how North Macedonia is called "the present Albanian political entity". Guided by that logic, Montenegro should also be an Albanian political entity. In principle, I think redirection would be a good solution. --
Aca (
talk)
12:01, 12 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep -- This is appropriate to keep: this is a list article. This should not need sources, as these will be in the articles listed. The function of articles of this kind is to serve as an index, which it potentially does well. It is certainly not ideal as some of the content is rulers rather than regions. I see little evidence of COATRACK. It id certainly a fork, but not a POVFORK. If there is anything in it that is POV, the solution is to edit not delete; or redirect, which is equally destructiuve.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
19:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)reply
There was a similar situation regarding the "List of Serb countries and regions" article, both of these articles serve (and served) the purpose of nationalist POV. Even though it is a list, it is completely unsourced. --
Vacant0 (
talk)
15:10, 14 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete as I believe a precedent has now been set with the Serb page. This should also probably be applied to the numerous other similar list articles.
Vladimir.copic (
talk)
22:21, 14 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete - the assertion from
Vladimir.copic above is that a
community consensus has been established with regard to this particular type of article. Content notwithstanding, I see no reason presented as to why that consensus shouldn't prevail. A list that serves its stated purpose can always be proposed for creation. St★lwart11102:36, 16 August 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
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